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Wow, big fat envelope from PE!

barginunter
barginunter Posts: 1,253 Forumite
in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hi, just received a huge pack of info they have sent to POPLA before our appeal is heard.
Lots of photos of signs. Lots of examples of cases they have won. Quite intimidating not to mention not very green. They are trying to disprove the "no genuine pre-estimate of loss" defense which they say is no longer considered a valid defense. They enclose "proof" that they are authorised by the Landowners to issue parking charges.
Is this what everyone is sent before a POPLA appeal or am I just lucky?

Comments

  • ledsons_teeth
    ledsons_teeth Posts: 136 Forumite
    Who the hell decided that GPEOL was 'no longer considered a valid defense.'

    AH! Parking Eye.

    67 and counting.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    They will lose, and you are right it's not very green
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,601 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    in who's car park did you park?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,986 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    As their evidence pack and arguments are template, they will soon be getting the POPLA template reply.

    Appeal upheld!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 157,125 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    barginunter wrote: »
    Is this what everyone is sent before a POPLA appeal or am I just lucky?



    Nope they waste their postage every time like this, it's madness!

    Have you sent your witness statement to the Prankster yet?

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/i-am-collecting-parkingeye-witness.html

    Helps the cause, so many discrepancies with dates & details & signatures!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
     Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • hoohoo
    hoohoo Posts: 1,717 Forumite
    ParkingEye have currently lost 77 cases regarding their charges and won zero, as reported here (up to post #687)

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4488337

    Plus they lost some others as well for different reasons.

    ParkingEye seem to think that if they can kill a tree every time they send in an evidence pack, the sheer horror of having to read it all will force the assessor to uphold the ticket. So far that plan is not working too well.

    Meanwhile their list of court cases they quote is not up to date. They seem to have missed this one out https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4774761
    Dedicated to driving up standards in parking
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    As they have been told time after time after time by POPLA that they cannot claim those amounts of money, does the fact they they are still sending out their silly PCNs amount to demanding money under false pretenses?
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • barginunter
    barginunter Posts: 1,253 Forumite
    Half_way wrote: »
    in who's car park did you park?
    Hi - I've posted here before, it was "the Range" in St Helens - at night when the store was closed! I've been helped on here with my appeal letter and it's being heard on the 18th December. Fingers crossed.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 157,125 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Oh yes, the Range in St Helens where PE were kicked out a while back.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
     Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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