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  • custardy wrote: »
    your point. which i disagree with

    Yeah, I got you disagreed with it. Your reason was based on damage/loss being less likely to happen with SD but even you said it could still happen. My point was about the speed making no difference. If it can happen then my point still stands.

    As I said before there's the same opportunities for that damage/loss to happen regardless of how likely it is or how fast it's progressing through the system and both slower and quicker delivery could cause problems (e.g. fast, rushed, mistakes/accidents. Slow, chance of being thrown in corner and forgotten).
  • custardy
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    Yeah, I got you disagreed with it. Your reason was based on damage/loss being less likely to happen with SD but even you said it could still happen. My point was about the speed making no difference. If it can happen then my point still stands.

    As I said before there's the same opportunities for that damage/loss to happen regardless of how likely it is or how fast it's progressing through the system and both slower and quicker delivery could cause problems (e.g. fast, rushed, mistakes/accidents. Slow, chance of being thrown in corner and forgotten).

    sigh,and I still disagree with you
    there are not the 'same' opportunities,given they travel in a different system
    The system is set up for next day delivery,so its not 'rushed'
    Bit of a juxtaposition of being rushed and forgotten about in a corner?
  • custardy wrote: »
    sigh,and I still disagree with you
    there are not the 'same' opportunities,given they travel in a different system
    The system is set up for next day delivery,so its not 'rushed'
    Bit of a juxtaposition of being rushed and forgotten about in a corner?

    Within that system there are the same opportunities. All items within that system have a chance of being lost/damaged, however small that chance it.

    If they have a lot going through that system for next day delivery they may rush to get it all through in time. Certain parts of that process may also be rushed even if it doesn't get sent out for delivery any sooner.

    I didn't put that I said,
    Fast=rushed, mistakes/accidents
    Slow=forgotten in corner
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    Within that system there are the same opportunities. All items within that system have a chance of being lost/damaged, however small that chance it.

    If they have a lot going through that system for next day delivery they may rush to get it all through in time. Certain parts of that process may also be rushed even if it doesn't get sent out for delivery any sooner.

    I didn't put that I said,
    Fast=rushed, mistakes/accidents
    Slow=forgotten in corner

    A chance,not the same chance
    Im not sure I can explain it any differently for you
    they are handled in different systems,in different numbers by different staff
  • custardy wrote: »
    A chance,not the same chance
    Im not sure I can explain it any differently for you
    they are handled in different systems,in different numbers by different staff

    Fine, all items within that system have the same chance of being lost/damaged, however small that chance it.

    It's probability. If, for example, there are 100 items going through a system and every 1 in 100 is damaged or lost then each item stands the same chance of being that 1 in every 100 that gets damaged/lost. Regardless of how fast each item goes through the system that chance would remain the same.
  • custardy
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    Fine, all items within that system have the same chance of being lost/damaged, however small that chance it.

    It's probability. If, for example, there are 100 items going through a system and every 1 in 100 is damaged or lost then each item stands the same chance of being that 1 in every 100 that gets damaged/lost. Regardless of how fast each item goes through the system that chance would remain the same.

    Which is the point im making. Im really astounded its taking so much effort here
    Interesting theory about speed and damage/loss, but there's still the same amount of opportunities for someone to damage it or lose it.
    This is your original post.
    The simple fact is there isnt the same chance vs other mail in the system in 'slower' postal methods
  • custardy wrote: »
    Which is the point im making. Im really astounded its taking so much effort here

    This is your original post.
    The simple fact is there isnt the same chance vs other mail in the system in 'slower' postal methods

    Yes, but regardless of how fast it goes through that system there's still the same chance of damage/loss. I wasn't talking about compared to other slower systems, I was talking about the speed in which it goes through that system.
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    Yes, but regardless of how fast it goes through that system there's still the same chance of damage/loss. I wasn't talking about compared to other slower systems, I was talking about the speed in which it goes through that system.

    seriously,again?
    Its a different system.It isnt handled in the same way
    it goes separately from other mail. its speed comes from that network
    So its chance of being damaged vs other items is lower by the sheer design/volume of that system
    The 'speed' is simply the standard for that system
  • custardy wrote: »
    seriously,again?
    Its a different system.It isnt handled in the same way
    it goes separately from other mail. its speed comes from that network
    So its chance of being damaged vs other items is lower by the sheer design/volume of that system
    The 'speed' is simply the standard for that system

    I know it's a different system! I'm saying the speed through that system and that system alone doesn't affect the chance of damage. I'm not comparing it to slower systems.

    Fine, let's put it this way.

    For example,

    SD. Every 1 in 100 items gets lost or damaged.

    Say the first lot of 100 get sorted in 3 hours and sit waiting to be delivered for the next day. 1 out of them 100 items has a chance of being lost or damaged. The chance is the same for each item.

    Say the next lot of 100 get sorted in 12 hours and then quickly rushed off to get them out for next day delivery. 1 out of them 100 items has a chance of being lost or damaged. The chance is the same for each item.

    Same SD system, all delivered next day, but that doesn't mean they wee processed at the same speed.

    Just because they all get to their destination the next day doesn't mean they all went though the system at the same speed, nor did that speed affect their chance of loss/damage.

    The fact they got there quick means nothing at all because they still had the same chance of being damaged or lost during that time. Perhaps a lower chance than another system but within that system speed had no affect.

    Comparing it to other systems is pointless because it obviously had to be sent that way. So for that item getting it quicker did not reduce the chance of it being damaged/lost.
  • bxboards
    bxboards Posts: 1,711 Forumite
    Can I suggest forgetting insurance and simply pack it adequately to avoid damage?

    Wrap the laptop in a roll of bubble wrap. Put that in a large padded jiffy bag. Put the jiffy bag in a strong cardbox box, the sort that Amazon use to send items. That that box and put it in larger box, and make sure the inner box is not touching the outer box with loads of screwed up newspaper, foam packaging baubles etc.

    If you pack it well, you don't need to worry about insurance.
    If you don't pack it well, any insurance will be invalidated.

    Double box it, and make sure the laptop is protected by lots of padding.
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