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ONS, middle fifth income households, 1977-2012

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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    I really counsel some understanding of how wage scales generally work. Anyone can do their own calculations. Let me describe one I did.

    I've just done my own calculations too.

    I believe, calculated on your response, you would have classed this as "exteme muddling from the Devonian school of crayons and home economics".

    Afterall, what was actually being discussed was the ONS calculations and methoogy. Not Loughton Monkey Ltd calc v3.445

    Presumably, the ONS calculation and therefore the results are simply not to Loughton Monkey Ltd's liking?
  • michaels
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    I love re-wired

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25120783

    But you are right about the median quintile.
    I think....
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    edited 4 December 2013 at 5:25PM
    michaels wrote: »
    I love re-wired

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25120783

    But you are right about the median quintile.

    Am I rewired again now then?

    Love the dig with the "you were right though" to finish it off :D

    What would be the definition of a poster reacting to a "lonely poster trolling himself" informing him that he's just a sad and lonely poster trolling himself and must have an illness? ;)
  • Thrugelmir
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    wotsthat wrote: »
    The graph over time showing inflation adjusted disposable income makes me glad I'm earning a living today and not 1977.

    Recently I looked at prices in the area I bought my first property. We borrowed 2.75 times joint income at an LTV to buy it.

    So we had a joint income of £9,500 at the time.

    Now I'd require an income of £61,000 to buy on the same basis.

    Interest rates were higher, 10% back then. However our pay was rising at around 10% per annum. So debt did indeed inflate away. Different story for people buying today.
  • I've just done my own calculations too.

    I believe, calculated on your response, you would have classed this as "exteme muddling from the Devonian school of crayons and home economics".

    Afterall, what was actually being discussed was the ONS calculations and methoogy. Not Loughton Monkey Ltd calc v3.445

    Presumably, the ONS calculation and therefore the results are simply not to Loughton Monkey Ltd's liking?

    Au contraire. ONS calculations are probably accurate, but confirm the conundrum that a statistic can demonstrate a 'negative' characteristic, whilst every individual within the statistics is 'happy'.

    ONS's "methoogy" is not at issue.

    But quite frankly, my dear, not being a mere 'middle quintile' myself, I tend not to give a damn. I think we should have far more sympathy with the bottom 20% of the pile. As you can no doubt personally testify, this is where the real hardship is. It's becoming increasingly hard to work one's way up to mediocrity.
  • .......What would be the definition of a poster reacting to a "lonely poster trolling himself" informing him that he's just a sad and lonely poster trolling himself and must have an illness? ;)

    ..... er .... re-wired?
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