We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Declaring profits

Options
Hi,

Last year (financial year) I made a profit of approximately £8000 on the stock market. I haven't yet declared my earning to the tax man, which I know needs to be done by the end of this year.
My tax rate is 20%, so I'm below the £10,000 threshold for tax. Should I still fill in a tax return for my earnings?

Comments

  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,676 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    are the gains income or capital?

    Are they realised gains or just a difference in current value? (i.e. you havent sold any investments yet)

    Are the investments inside an ISA?
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Linton
    Linton Posts: 18,154 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Hung up my suit!
    Money you make by buying and selling shares is "Capital gains", not "earnings". They are taxed separately. For 2012-2013 the Capital Gains Tax Allowance was £10600. You only made a profit of £8K and so are not liable for capital gains tax (assuming you didnt make capitals gains elsewhere selling other items of value).

    If you sold more than a total of £42400 of shares you will have to declare this even if you didnt make any profit and wont actually be charged tax.

    You will need to keep records of your purchases and sales for up to 7 years in case HMRC want to check up on your activities.

    You can avoid all this hassle by trading within an S&S ISA. Anything done within an ISA will not be taxed, should not be reported, and you dont have to keep records.
  • Sorry, it was capital gains not earning as I have a PAYE job. And they weren't from an ISA, I bought and sold shares myself.
    Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep a record of my transactions for the future :)
  • Lokolo
    Lokolo Posts: 20,861 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    edited 3 December 2013 at 5:11PM
    If you don't normally complete a tax return
    If you have worked out you have no Capital Gains Tax to pay, you don't need to give HMRC details of your gains or disposals.

    However you should still keep detailed records of buys, sells and profits/losses.

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cgt/intro/report-gain.htm
    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/cgt.htm
  • bigadaj
    bigadaj Posts: 11,531 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    dave119e wrote: »
    Sorry, it was capital gains not earning as I have a PAYE job. And they weren't from an ISA, I bought and sold shares myself.
    Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep a record of my transactions for the future :)

    If you receive dividends then additional tax is due if you're a higher rate taxpayer, also if you've only made a paper profit then that isn't classed as a gain until you sell. So you can avoid or reduce capital gaisn tax by staggering sales across tax years.
  • jimjames
    jimjames Posts: 18,662 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    dave119e wrote: »
    And they weren't from an ISA, I bought and sold shares myself.

    You can still buy & sell shares yourself inside an ISA.

    If you haven't used your allowance then it is a very easy way to not have to worry about tax either for dividend income or for CGT.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • atush
    atush Posts: 18,731 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I agree, why not buy and sell from an ISA in future?
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.1K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.6K Spending & Discounts
  • 244K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.9K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.9K Life & Family
  • 257.3K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.