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Will RoUK really give up some of its financial freedom to the independant Scots?

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  • System
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    antrobus wrote: »
    You are persisting in the error of thinking that the question of Scottish independence is some kind of dispute between Scotland and the UK. It isn't. It's purely a matter for Scotland.

    Do divorce courts apply the same principle under Scottish law? One half simply tells the other which assets he/she will be taking?
    Oh, and by the way, I'll continue to use the joint bank account.
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  • antrobus
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    Do divorce courts apply the same principle under Scottish law? One half simply tells the other which assets he/she will be taking?
    Oh, and by the way, I'll continue to use the joint bank account.

    The divorce petition has yet to be filed. We are still at the stage where one party to the marriage is debating with themselves as to which way to go.:)
  • adouglasmhor
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    So would Scot's pay a licence fee?

    Or are you assuming you will tap into this for nothing?

    It's this sort of stuff that will cause friction between nations.

    I am assuming the Union will stand after a no vote.
    But why would they pay a licence fee, It would be no different from tapping in to any other foreign broadcast? Do you think anyone in the Low Countries or Ireland pays a BBC licence fee?
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  • Graham_Devon
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    edited 3 December 2013 at 2:57PM
    I am assuming the Union will stand after a no vote.
    But why would they pay a licence fee, It would be no different from tapping in to any other foreign broadcast? Do you think anyone in the Low Countries or Ireland pays a BBC licence fee?

    Would "tapping into" the BBC (bar World service channels) not be illegal? What you are essentially suggesting here is the same as tapping into Sky without paying for it.

    It would be a somewhat bizzare situation in that it would be illegal for anyone without a TV licence to watch the BBC in the UK (considering the BBC is intended for the UK), but perfectly fine for those in Scotland to pay nothing and watch the content.

    It appears to be an assumption that the Scot's will take something they won't pay for. That's hardly setting a good standard for relations between countries.
  • System
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    antrobus wrote: »
    one party to the marriage is debating with themselves as to which way to go.:)


    I thought Alex Salmond wanted a public debate with David Cameron?
    That doesn't sound like someone who believes it's a purely Scottish affair.
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  • adouglasmhor
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    Would "tapping into" the BBC (bar World service channels) not be illegal? What you are essentially suggesting here is the same as tapping into Sky without paying for it.

    It would be a somewhat bizzare situation in that it would be illegal for anyone without a TV licence to watch the BBC in the UK (considering the BBC is intended for the UK), but perfectly fine for those in Scotland to pay nothing and watch the content.

    It appears to be an assumption that the Scot's will take something they won't pay for. That's hardly setting a good standard for relations between countries.
    No it would not be illegal; the fee in the UK is to watch live TV channels in the UK not to watch the BBC. As I say people in other neighbouring countries watch it if they can get a signal, no law being broken. I presume the cable and satellite rebroadcasters will pay a fee to the beeb for the right to rebroadcast commercially.
    Your posts on the subject are some of the dumbest I have ever seen on MSE including my own worst. No actual relationship to reality at all.
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  • angrypirate
    angrypirate Posts: 1,151 Forumite
    Would "tapping into" the BBC (bar World service channels) not be illegal? What you are essentially suggesting here is the same as tapping into Sky without paying for it.

    It would be a somewhat bizzare situation in that it would be illegal for anyone without a TV licence to watch the BBC in the UK (considering the BBC is intended for the UK), but perfectly fine for those in Scotland to pay nothing and watch the content.

    It appears to be an assumption that the Scot's will take something they won't pay for. That's hardly setting a good standard for relations between countries.
    If Scotland goes for independence, then i can see the Tories potentially having a majority in the RoUK from 2016. In the event of a Tory majority I fully expect them to strip the BBC of its licence fee forcing them to either go subscription or adverts which makes it an irrelevant point.
  • antrobus
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    No it would not be illegal; the fee in the UK is to watch live TV channels in the UK not to watch the BBC. As I say people in other neighbouring countries watch it if they can get a signal, no law being broken.....

    In the days when TC was analogue, most of the population of the Republic of Ireland could watch the BBC, and most of NI, (and certain chunks of Wales etc) could watch RTE. I believe it is different with digital; you now have to go to the trouble of buying a Freeview box in RoI or something similar.

    I suppose it is possible that UK free-to-air channels might stop broadcasting to Scotland, in the sense that Scottish transmitters might no longer relay the necessary signals. I'd imagine that the whole issue would be dealt with quite easily should it ever become necessary.
  • robmatic
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    No it would not be illegal; the fee in the UK is to watch live TV channels in the UK not to watch the BBC. As I say people in other neighbouring countries watch it if they can get a signal, no law being broken. I presume the cable and satellite rebroadcasters will pay a fee to the beeb for the right to rebroadcast commercially.
    Your posts on the subject are some of the dumbest I have ever seen on MSE including my own worst. No actual relationship to reality at all.

    I doubt that any Scottish viewers north of the Borders would pick up much of a signal from English transmitters.
  • adouglasmhor
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    antrobus wrote: »
    In the days when TC was analogue, most of the population of the Republic of Ireland could watch the BBC, and most of NI, (and certain chunks of Wales etc) could watch RTE. I believe it is different with digital; you now have to go to the trouble of buying a Freeview box in RoI or something similar.

    I suppose it is possible that UK free-to-air channels might stop broadcasting to Scotland, in the sense that Scottish transmitters might no longer relay the necessary signals. I'd imagine that the whole issue would be dealt with quite easily should it ever become necessary.
    Harder still to block the BBC from the freesat channels
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