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Takeaway_Addict

dktreesea wrote: »

But it's not just their corporation tax that the issue. It's also that the law enables them to exploit their workers, certainly relative to how many employers in the UK treat their employees today at least. How far are you prepared to take the idea that if you have no money, and bills to pay, you are prepared to do any kind of work, however hazardous that work may be? Blistered feet shouldn't happen in any workplace, and can be avoided through a slower pace and rotation of work within a day.

Deary me......

SeaLion_2

sniggings wrote: »

what job do you have? or is this coming from a house wife, that stops and watches loose women when she likes? then expects the husband to do the hoovering after he's done a days work already, to give you a break.

I ask this as it's telling that you say your husband and dad are used to such work, so i take you are not, yet it's you advocating that it's fine for the men to do it.

Funnily enough, many women are also order pickers. My husband is a distribution manager, he started off as a picker. It didn't kill him. As a manager he still walks 6 miles a day managing the pick performance. It doesn't kill him. When he wore shoes that didn't suit his feet once, he had blisters. After that he bought his own steel toe cap boots.

Or am I not allowed to say any of that because I am not a picker? Or according to you do I clearly I sit at work all day with my feet on the desk, peeling grapes, because I don't work in a pick environment?

Or is it that you work in a nice cozy council office and don't know what real work is?
Or are not working at all seeing your post was 4:28am?
Or simply been told off by your wife for not vacuuming thoroughly?

honeybean

I have been an order picker for 20 yrs for a food retailer and to be honest the amazon programme is not a shocker, I like my job it is well paid and I like the excercise ,in all walks of life and jobs we all have targets to hit so why keep moaning , I am 46 and I walk about 9+miles a day and as my dad always said hard work never killed anyone . Stop being whiners and get on with it .i get fed up with people moaning all the time and yes where I work there are around 30+ of us women who are order pickers. What was wrong with the amazon programme we also have sickness targets it really is no different than other places they just seemed to pick out the bad bits.

honeybean

AP007 wrote: »

Really? Who the hell walks 10 miles a day.10,000 steps is 10 miles?

I used to walk only about 2,000 probably do nothing like that now.

I walk more than that distance for a food retailer what is the problem with that distance if you don't want to do it don't work there simples!!! It makes me annoyed when people make judgements about company's they have no knowledge of !!!

sniggings

SeaLion wrote: »

Funnily enough, many women are also order pickers. My husband is a distribution manager, he started off as a picker. It didn't kill him. As a manager he still walks 6 miles a day managing the pick performance. It doesn't kill him. When he wore shoes that didn't suit his feet once, he had blisters. After that he bought his own steel toe cap boots.

Or am I not allowed to say any of that because I am not a picker? Or according to you do I clearly I sit at work all day with my feet on the desk, peeling grapes, because I don't work in a pick environment?

Or is it that you work in a nice cozy council office and don't know what real work is?
Or are not working at all seeing your post was 4:28am?
Or simply been told off by your wife for not vacuuming thoroughly?

I was talking about the person I quoted in my post, not you... for someone to claim that hard work doesn't kill you, as the men in her life are testament to, just struck me as a little rich for her to be giving out advice but holding up other people as evidence.

seems it's ok for others to work hard but not her.

If you work hard then good on you, you could use yourself as an example, and not other people. It comes across as less two faced.

googler

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2526054/The-Cambridge-graduates-grateful-earn-7-hour-Amazon-drones-As-Ben-reveals-working-gruelling-shifts-warehouse-job-get.html#comments

From The Mail, Cambridge graduate 'forced' to work in 'gruelling', 'back-breaking' conditions ....

Honestly, which planet are these journalists on? The Amazon workers are in clean, dry workplaces, under cover, and probably air-conditioned. They walk up and down, pick stuff up and put it down.

Back-breaking work is hacking at a coal face with a pick and shovel, hundreds of feet underground. Back-breaking is schlepping big bits of metal around in a shipyard or similar workplace. Or digging out a canal with picks and shovels. Not Amazon work.

Denning.

googler wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2526054/The-Cambridge-graduates-grateful-earn-7-hour-Amazon-drones-As-Ben-reveals-working-gruelling-shifts-warehouse-job-get.html#comments

From The Mail, Cambridge graduate 'forced' to work in 'gruelling', 'back-breaking' conditions ....

Honestly, which planet are these journalists on? The Amazon workers are in clean, dry workplaces, under cover, and probably air-conditioned. They walk up and down, pick stuff up and put it down.

Back-breaking work is hacking at a coal face with a pick and shovel, hundreds of feet underground. Back-breaking is schlepping big bits of metal around in a shipyard or similar workplace. Or digging out a canal with picks and shovels. Not Amazon work.

He comes across a bit up himself.

SJ32116

I think the main thing to worry about from that article is where he mentions how many people with decent degrees are working in the Amazon warehouse. That was exactly my experience from working as a picker in the warehouse of a large clothes retailer.

I dread to think how much talent in my age group is being wasted in this country because there isn't the jobs for these graduates to take so they have to settle for jobs like picking in a warehouse.

Don't get me wrong, I don't look down on jobs like that and I've done them but it's pretty demoralising to have to accept those sorts of jobs when you've just worked so hard for so many years to find out you might as well not bothered and just quit school at 16.

Denning.

SJ32116 wrote: »

I think the main thing to worry about from that article is where he mentions how many people with decent degrees are working in the Amazon warehouse. That was exactly my experience from working as a picker in the warehouse of a large clothes retailer.

I dread to think how much talent in my age group is being wasted in this country because there isn't the jobs for these graduates to take so theft have to settle for jobs like picking in a warehouse.

Don't get me wrong, I don't look down on jobs like that and I've done them but it's pretty demoralising to have to accept those sorts of jobs when you've just worked so hard for so many years to find out you might as well not bothered and just quit school at 16.

Having graduated recently I was under no illusions about the importance of experience. Too many graduates are niave about what employers want. I also don't equate a degree with talent. A lot of graduates are not good employees at all. With the exception of confidence issues, talent will always find it's way moving up.

SJ32116

Denning. wrote: »

Having graduated recently I was under no illusions about the importance of experience. Too many graduates are niave about what employers want. I also don't equate a degree with talent. A lot of graduates are not good employees at all. With the exception of confidence issues, talent will always find it's way moving up.

Of course, it depends on the degree. If someone has a degree in science, computing, engineering or whatever then there has to be some level of talent there or they wouldn't have been able to pass the degree or even get on it.

If you're doing a degree in art for example then yeah it's nonsense and just an excuse to go away and have the University life for 3 years. There's far too many pointless degrees.

Obviously a degree doesn't mean you're going to be a good employee but neither does experience. Some of the most inept people I've ever worked with have been the most experienced.