AMAZON on BBC1 Undercover

mountainofdebt

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

Thanks for reinforcing my argument.

are you saying my OH overworks his staff?

If so you haven't been into his office (or holiday camp as I like to call it)

His attitude is they can use the internet to their heart's content come in late themselves if they want BUT he expects deadlines to be met. He's hardly treating them as slave labour.

Also if the employee was getting blisters then a good pair of walking shoes/socks would have been the way forward

John1993_2

scooby088 wrote: »

I would disclose the use of such prescription drugs to my employer, what I object to is the testing. And if my employer introduced such a policy I would refuse to have any test taken. I know I haven't taken anything and in essense the employer doesn't trust the employees word.

We could save a fortune if the police adopted your ideas with suspects. How dare they actually check what's happened, instead of assuming that everyone is honest?..

dktreesea

An interesting programme. A lot of people go to work and work the whole day through, from clock on to clock off. Bus drivers, lorry drivers, people who work on oil platforms, anyone who works on the assembly line of a factory. Okay, they may not have to walk 10 miles a day in the course of their work, but they still have to work right through, concentrating the whole time.

People in Amazon get blisters of their feet? People who work in fish processing factories get blisters on their hands. Lorry drivers get headaches. People who work in foundries get burns. Likewise chefs. Health related issues in certain occupations aren't new. And what about farming? There's something that may not pay as well as working at Amazon and has to be done in all weathers, no matter what. Or being a nurse on a busy ward, or a teacher. There's a job where the noise would get to me within about a week.

The programme made out that jobs like Amazon are the exception. They're not. They're the norm. The exception is jobs where you get to sit at a computer day in day out, and chitty chat with mates at work at the water cooler, all under the heading of "having an important meeting".

AP007

dktreesea wrote: »

An interesting programme. A lot of people go to work and work the whole day through, from clock on to clock off. Bus drivers, lorry drivers, people who work on oil platforms, anyone who works on the assembly line of a factory. Okay, they may not have to walk 10 miles a day in the course of their work, but they still have to work right through, concentrating the whole time.
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These people don't get a break?

RichardD1970

AP007 wrote: »

These people don't get a break?

Well, yes of course they do.

I think the point was that the program made a big thing about Amazon excessively controlling the working day, when it is the same in most production jobs.

Working on a production line building cars, your every second is accounted for and controlled throughout the shift.

John1993_2

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Well, yes of course they do.

I think the point was that the program made a big thing about Amazon excessively controlling the working day, when it is the same in most production jobs.

Working on a production line building cars, your every second is accounted for and controlled throughout the shift.

As I think I mentioned above, I am really surprised that people think that thiis is unusual, or unacceptable in a job. A lot of posters seem to think that it's outrageous that staff have to work hard, and continuously (except for their breaks and lunchtime, of course...), which just seems bizarre.

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tim9966 wrote: »

Did the lad they showed get sacked in the end? He'd worked there for a few months but they seemed to be keeping him on. I'm sure if he didn't like walking then it could have gone onto packing.

No programme production let him quit - lucky for him
He seemed to be punished at one point when off sick as he was moved to lighter duties at one point that, then after sickness back to it

Did anyone see the programme on c4 21st Oct 'secrets of your pay packet' well something along this title if I remember, this company were part featured on that as well, so not just pickers having problems, Amoz cheap? no I brought a lipbalm cheaper on the high st yesterday then advertised on that site, in fact once I brought the lipbalm and Big Issue I still had a couple of pennies left to compare to that site! LOL!

Podge52

RichardD1970 wrote: »

Yes, but you are an honest and upstanding member of society, many people (especially those who take illegal drugs) aren't and are libel to lie to their employers if asked about drug taking.

How is an employer with 1000s of staff meant to know who is honest and who isn't, and would have to potentially test everyone to prevent accusations of discrimination. They can't just say, we trust Scooby so don't bother testing him.

How did employers ever get on before this technology was available to them.

RichardD1970

Deleted%20User wrote: »

No programme production let him quit - lucky for him
He seemed to be punished at one point when off sick as he was moved to lighter duties at one point that, then after sickness back to it

How is moving someone to lighter duties when they have been off sick a punishment? Surely this is what we read about on these boards all the time, an employer making a reasonable adjustment to help an employee back into working life.

Podge52 wrote: »

How did employers ever get on before this technology was available to them.

It's a simple urine test, hardly new technology.

Dovah_diva

Deleted%20User wrote: »

No programme production let him quit - lucky for him
He seemed to be punished at one point when off sick as he was moved to lighter duties at one point that, then after sickness back to it!

Actually, he complained about having blisters and was therefore moved to a smaller 'round'. When they had healed he was put back on his normal round. I think that is actually quite reasonable of the managers, hardly a punishment.