Parking Eye - Could be guilty, do I pay?

Smallsteps123

Hi all,


I know there is tons of treads already about parking eye but mine is this.
I parked in Morrison's in Stratford, London last week, I overstayed by 43 mins.
I didnt buy a ticket for the first 20 mins as I arrived early for a meeting. I was back in my car before the ticket run out, I then proceeded to make a few phone calls before I left.
I wasn't aware (not signage, I just didn't notice I think) that it was the length of time my car was in car park that was a problem, at the time, I was just looking out for a car park attendedent to look for the ticket on my car!

Do I just pay as I am guilty or appeal, what would my chances be??

Thank you.

kirkbyinfurnesslad_2

Guilty?

What criminal offence have u committed?

spacey2012

As the law stands:
You owe them for 43 minutes of parking money, not the ridiculous penalty they think you owe.

Smallsteps123

kirkbyinfurnesslad wrote: »

Guilty?

What criminal offence have u committed?

Ok guilty may not be the correct word..... but I did overstay, it wasnt an accident or a mistake!

kirkbyinfurnesslad_2

Read this

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

Guys_Dad

Smallsteps123 wrote: »

Ok guilty may not be the correct word..... but I did overstay, it wasnt an accident or a mistake!

Time to dust off a previous post in these circumstances.

You are making the newbies' common mistake which is "I done wrong, guv, so they are right to charge me. How can I defend that??".

Our point is " regardless of the facts, PPCs are penalising motorists to a ludicrous extent to which they are not entitled and we concentrate on helping people based on that point"

Suppose you had been caught doing 35 mph in a 30 mph limit. You get to the Magistrates court and they say "Guilty. Lock him up for 2 years".

You would get a brief to appeal the sentence, not the verdict.

So that's the case here. You are appealing the "sentence" of £100 that does not fit the "crime",

So, you major on the "No genuine pre-estimate of loss" point.

Also, suppose the PPC didn't have the right to charge you 1p as they didn't have a valid contract with the landowner? So you demand that they produce the contract in question that actually specifies that they are allowed to charge you.

Going back to the "crime" of speeding. Suppose that there were no 30mph signs up and it wasn't obvious that you were in built up area. Would that be fair? So you challenge the signage of the park in question. Obviously the signage was inadequate or you would have seen it.

Basically, that's it in a nutshell.

Smallsteps123

Thank you for the posts, I have a lot of reading to do and letters to write.

xemopunkx

Guys_Dad wrote: »

Time to dust off a previous post in these circumstances.

You are making the newbies' common mistake which is "I done wrong, guv, so they are right to charge me. How can I defend that??".

Our point is " regardless of the facts, PPCs are penalising motorists to a ludicrous extent to which they are not entitled and we concentrate on helping people based on that point"

Suppose you had been caught doing 35 mph in a 30 mph limit. You get to the Magistrates court and they say "Guilty. Lock him up for 2 years".

You would get a brief to appeal the sentence, not the verdict.

So that's the case here. You are appealing the "sentence" of £100 that does not fit the "crime",

So, you major on the "No genuine pre-estimate of loss" point.

Also, suppose the PPC didn't have the right to charge you 1p as they didn't have a valid contract with the landowner? So you demand that they produce the contract in question that actually specifies that they are allowed to charge you.

Going back to the "crime" of speeding. Suppose that there were no 30mph signs up and it wasn't obvious that you were in built up area. Would that be fair? So you challenge the signage of the park in question. Obviously the signage was inadequate or you would have seen it.

Basically, that's it in a nutshell.

@Guys Dad I seriously love this. I think I read these words at least 3 times on different posts and I always do when I see it. Great examples.