Ignore, respond or pay Roxburghe - Help!

hcjonesbb

Well I've never ignored a parking fine before and now I regret doing so.

I parked in a euro car parks parking back in July 2013. I remember paying for my ticket, cant remember exactly the sum or length of stay, what I do remember is I paid for more than an hour as the machine did not give me change. E.g. I paid 0.80p for 1 hour, inputting £1 in the machine. My fine states I overstayed by something ridiculous like 7 minutes.

Totally begrudged paying £40 for this. I appealed, it was rejected. I did not disclose I was the driver.

since August I've received a 'notice to keeper' outstanding balance reminder, now £70. Which I ignored. As advised by you guys!!

Today I'm unhappy. I've had a letter from Roxburghe addressed to myself (my name) asking for £118 within 14 days. It states in the letter:

''We have been instructed by ... that a PCN was issued to the above-mentioned vehicle and the driver should have paid it. Pur client has advised that they have not received payment or any valid dispute and therefore it is now too late to pay the discounted amount or challenge this notice.
A notice was sent to you, as the registered keeper of the vehicle indicating that you could be liable for this charge if it remains unpaid, under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. This letter provides notification provides notification that you are now liable for the charge and that the Total Amount Due as shown above, is payable within the next 14 days.
In line with the Terms and Conditions of parking at the above site, recovery and administration charges have been incurred which are included in the Total Amount Due. Cheques made payable to ...

signed parking services manager and name.

What do I do? Help! The joke is the machine took my money and did not give me change therefore I've actually paid for my parking. I haven't kept my ticket though.

Please help!

Stroma

You have not been advised to ignore this by us!!!! If you bothered to have read up to date threads you would have known what to do!

Now your choices are limited to pay or ignore, or send a robust rebuttal of this scam, up to you! I suggest you read the sticky threads that are there to help you!

Leave it to you to learn about this instead of accusing us of advising you to ignore! I'm out of here

hcjonesbb

I have read many of the threads and and am confused hence the cry for help. Different situations. I liked one letter template on one of the threads. I'm hoping someone can help with a reply to my letter. As I said above, my appeal was rejected and they are simply referring to me as the keeper not the driver.

The information on here does state ignoring a non council PCN is the done thing.

I'm looking for advice from someone who's experienced this.

Buzby

For goodness sake! So you you get a letter from bulk mailers Roxburgh and now you are in a funk? Really!

Since you've done nothing - just keep doing so. Only when and if you get a letter from the court asking you to defend or pay, and call their bluff does it move to the next stage. As you didn't agree to any terms you are not admitting anything, and it is a long road before they get anywhere near formal pursuit.

Chill!

hcjonesbb

It sure is worrying though! What do I do if they threaten me with court or actually want me to go there?

All I give a bananas about is my credit score and not having to have court on my record.

Buzby

None of this affects your credit score.

They would have to take you to court, you not defend or lose, and then not pay the required amount in 28 days.

If you did - no issues, no reason for Registry Trust to report on you. You only get a CCJ if you do not pay when ordered to do so by a court, not as most think - for losing.

Only genuine court forms need be considered, everything else is part of the charade.

HO87

No doubt the Parking Services Manager who penned the letter is our dear, dear friend Steve Dargonne who has penned tens of thousands of such letters over the years and only initiated court action in a handful of cases (well he didn't actually initiate the court action but I'd bet he'd like to think that he did).

The same man who used to advise recipients of letters that they would fall foul of the civil procedure rules without telling them that the rule he referred to didn't apply to the small claims court. And I'd just bet that he hasn't told you in the letter that since 2011 Roxburghe have been the subject of an investigation by the OFT, that they have now been told that the OFT has refused to renew their Consumer Credit Act licence (which they need to operate as debt collectors - they are going through the appeals process at the moment) and, to add to their woes, their tame, so-called in-house solicitors GPB has been closed down by the Solicitors Regulation Authority for malpractice.

That same Parking Serviuces Manager who almost certainly failed to put in the letter that Roxburghe's previous in-house solicitor (who really only rented them his name so they could use it to sign solicitors' letters that they themselves produced) was so keen to follow through on parking cases that he twice failed to show in court and on the one further occasion was roundly spanked.

That same Roxburghe? Still so frightened now?

hcjonesbb

Thank you so much for replying!

Coupon-mad

since August I've received a 'notice to keeper' outstanding balance reminder,
now £70. Which I ignored. As advised by you guys!!

Not true in 2013 since around March...but easily dealt with. You are only getting the same letters people used to ignore for years under the 'old advice'. I have ignored Euro Car Parks myself and laughed at each letter (when there was no appeal system of POPLA, which you have missed now). ECP don't do court!

I thought I had covered this scenario in the sticky thread 'newbies...have you got a private parking ticket? Read this now!' I even added links to the debt collector letters when telling newbies what to do if 'too late' to appeal...you have options. Read the info sticky thread near the top as you would have been best to do before posting.