New Job . No contract . No Breaks .

Prothet_of_Doom

bargainbetty wrote: »

Drop a call into HMRC regarding payroll, tax returns and the like. Anonymous call, inviting an investigation. And have your son find another job, because the employer will continue to pull this stuff until someone in any form of authority comes down on him, and that will not be your son.

In addition get son to join a union and get them to take appropriate action.

mandi

AP007 wrote: »

He has to be given written particulars within a certain time

Also you say he does 54 hours a week that's with no breaks or it would be more as he is working the breaks?

Is he on NMW?

The 54 hours include his lunch breaks AP . Not on NMW

Prothet_of_Doom wrote: »

In addition get son to join a union and get them to take appropriate action.

I have suggested this to him Prothet , the question is if they became involved what will his employer do, obviously my son doesn't want to loose his job .

Thanks again everyone

AP007

mandi wrote: »

The 54 hours include his lunch breaks AP . Not on NMW



I have suggested this to him Prothet , the question is if they became involved what will his employer do, obviously my son doesn't want to loose his job .

Thanks again everyone

So hours worked and the break he is not allowed to take comes to 54 hours worked?

Ok may not be on NMW but does the fact he works 54 hours bring him down to NMW

mandi

bargainbetty wrote: »

Drop a call into HMRC regarding payroll, tax returns and the like. Anonymous call, inviting an investigation. And have your son find another job, because the employer will continue to pull this stuff until someone in any form of authority comes down on him, and that will not be your son.

thank you bargainbetty i'll do that .

mandi

AP007 wrote: »

So hours worked and the break he is not allowed to take comes to 54 hours worked?

Ah ha AP . 7.30/5.30 Monday/Friday . 9 am to 1pm Saturday no breaks . Still not NMW though .

AP007

mandi wrote: »

Ah ha AP . 7.30/5.30 Monday/Friday . 9 am to 1pm Saturday no breaks . Still not NMW though .

Do other staff get a break?

mandi

AP007 wrote: »

Do other staff get a break?

Thanks again for replying AP

As I said in my OP it's a family run business, other than my son the staff are all related so as they come & go as they please, including late starts/long lunch breaks and early finishes along with the odd day off here and there .

AP007

mandi wrote: »

Thanks again for replying AP

As I said in my OP it's a family run business, other than my son the staff are all related so as they come & go as they please, including late starts/long lunch breaks and early finishes along with the odd day off here and there .

I don't know what else to say but I know threat of the sack or not I would still take the 20 mins break I was entitled to by law.

If they fired me then well that's on their heads as a nice call to the HMRC would be a good xmas present for them

hawk30

The whole 'if he has less than two years service, they can let him go for no reason' isn't exactly true. There are a number of instances where a dismissal can be automatically unfair and two years' service is irrelevant. One of these instances is assertion of a statutory right, which the no breaks thing could come under. So, if he rocked the boat on this and was dismissed for it and had some evidence of it, this would be unfair dismissal.

DevilsAdvocate1

When I was in my first job, which was also a family run business, the company moved buildings to a bigger office. There were signs all over the new office warning of asbestos. Owner wasn't bothered.

I didn't know at the time, but my parents reported this to environmental health, who came out and did an inspection. The next day some equipment was installed to measure asbestos in the air and a short time later all the asbestos was removed.

You could report anonymously and not tell your son until many years later (like my parents did).

There were slightly more staff though - there were 2 owners, 2 staff (including me) and 1 work placement student. I think they suspected me, but when I was quizzed I could honestly say that I hadn't reported them.