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APCOA appeal

A tricky one here, and possibly I have shot myself in the foot...

I received a PCN at Huntingdon rail station after my VALID annual season ticket detached itself from the windscreen and landed on car floor.

I wrote to APCOA advising them of same (including a scanned copy of my valid season ticket), however my appeal has rejected on grounds of failure to "ensure that (the permit) is prominently displayed on your dashboard in your vehicle (etc.)" put me in breach of the conditions of the car park.

So, I can cough up £50 within fourteen days for this aggravation to disappear. But on a matter of principle - and having paid £850 for the annual permit - I am loath to do so.

If I put the proverbial two fingers up to APCOA, I do not want to get a whole load of aggro, i.e. they rescind my annual permit or similar.

Suggestions most appreciated!

Comments

  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    A few questions

    1) is this England or Wales ?
    2) are you the registered keeper?
    3) did they give you a popla code with your rejection?

    Thanks
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Hi Stroma,

    Thanks for the quick feedback. The answers in the same order:

    1. England
    2. Yes
    3. Yes

    Thanks.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Next step then is to do a popla appeal, read the sticky threads on how to do that, you need to concentrate on

    1) genuine pre-estimate of loss
    2) no contract to issue invoices
    3) not adequate signage

    And so on
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Ok, thanks. Considering your three points would say:

    1. Their loss is zero - I possess a valid annual permit for the vehicle, just failed to comply with their display requirements;
    2. Not sure what is meant here...?
    3. Will check at the car park tomorrow! Is there an established definition of "adequate" in this context?

    Thanks.
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    Parking companies are loath to release the full contract they have with the landowner , the reason is because it will detail what they can and cannot do. So if you raise it, and they don't supply it means that it's assumed they don't have that contract. Signage they won't comply, if you raise it they must provide proof of compliance.
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Stroma
    Stroma Posts: 7,971 Forumite
    Uniform Washer
    When posting a parking issue on MSE do not reveal any information that may enable PPCs to identify you. They DO monitor the forum.
    We don't need the following to help you.
    Name, Address, PCN Number, Exact Date Of Incident, Date On Invoice, Reg Number, Vehicle Picture, The Time You Entered & Left Car Park, Or The Amount of Time You Overstayed.
    :beer: Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Member :beer:
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,595 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Ok, thanks. Considering your three points would say:

    1. Their loss is zero - I possess a valid annual permit for the vehicle, just failed to comply with their display requirements;
    2. Not sure what is meant here...?
    3. Will check at the car park tomorrow! Is there an established definition of "adequate" in this context?

    Thanks.


    You have a POPLA code in the rejection letter, yes?

    'How to win at POPLA' is linked in the sticky thread called 'newbies...read this now!'.

    and also read the sticky 'successful complaints' which explains in post #3 that a polite complaint to 'Passenger Focus' can help put pressure on a Train Operating Co (TOC) to cancel an unfair parking 'ticket'.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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