Another Humberside Airport PCN

Umkomaas

Vixie72 wrote: »

I have just received a parking ticket for parking on land just outside the airport. Yes signs were posted all over about no stopping or waiting in restricted areas or roadways, but I pulled up in a bus stop for what was seconds, to answer my mobile (normal and safe thing to do), the company car pulled up behind me so I drove away.

I really don't know what to do about it and i'm getting a little confused with all these different postings on here. Can anyone advise please?

This will guide you through. There's a bit of reading and research to do, the more you understand it, the better your chances of a good result. If there's anything more after reading all this, please start a new thread of your own and help will be there, but the link should answer most questions.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

Illumina2216

I am all for fighting VCS but where in the uk can you pull up, park pick up or drop off in a bus stop or a restricted zone? It just invites unwanted trouble, seeing as the airport has 15 mins free to use as many times as you want I don't see why you still do what your not supposed to? I just think it is daft, human nature in some people make them ignore rules, without rules what would we be?

Coupon-mad

The point you are missing, illumina2216, is that if VCS made sure it was clearly signed with copious large, illuminated 'clearway' notices facing traffic along the route, people would know not to stop.

These private firms know exactly what they are doing by painting a few lines on a road (which can't be seen in the dark) and then not bothering with clear signs suitable specifically for 'moving traffic' in a no-stopping zone. No 'rules' are communicated properly at all, which is why so many people fall into the 'trap' (which it is). The local MP agrees with us. POPLA agrees with us because VCS fails to sign the area as per the BPA Code of Practice 'rules'...without rules what would we be?!!

The Airport is clueless though, and say 'Anyone caught parking where they shouldn’t could face a fine of up to £100'. A fine from a private firm...can you 'get over' that, illumina2216? After all private firms can't fine anyone, it's trite law...without rules what would we be?!!

trisontana

Plus the recent court case where VCS took someone to court and lost because the motorist had stopped for less than a minute because of engine trouble.

Coupon-mad

trisontana wrote: »

Plus the recent court case where VCS took someone to court and lost because the motorist had stopped for less than a minute because of engine trouble.

Do you know if we have the case number for that one, on pepipoo maybe? I need to add it to the summary of court cases but know no case details/name/date.

trisontana

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Do you know if we have the case number for that one, on pepipoo maybe? I need to add it to the summary of court cases but know no case details/name/date.

It was never featured on PPP , only on here, and the OP did not give any more details regarding case numbers etc.

nigelbb

Illumina2216 wrote: »

I am all for fighting VCS but where in the uk can you pull up, park pick up or drop off in a bus stop or a restricted zone?

You can drop off & pick up in most places on regular roads including Urban Clearways & on double yellow lines. Where you cannot stop to pick up or drop off on the public highway is properly proscribed by traffic regulations with appropriate signage & road markings. It's not appropriate to try & twist contract law to implement a similar regime on private land. If there are good reasons for not allowing cars to stop to drop off & pick up on the airport roads then the airport operator should regulate it by use of bylaws.

Redx

must be this one https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4514387

its also on PP blog but only taken from here , no case number

highfields01

Having rejected my appeal and issued a POPLA code , they then didn't even bother to contest my POPLA .

many thanks to all who contributed info in this forum.

My grounds for appeal were punitive charge,unclear photo of number plate during the 14 second timing of the alleged stop, operator needed to prove they have the authority to issue parking charge/relevant land stuff

Appeal result

The Operatorissued parking charge notice number xxxxxxx arising

out of apresence on private land, of a vehicle with registration mark

xxxxxx.



The Appellantappealed against liability for the parking charge.

The Assessor hasconsidered the evidence of both parties and has

determined thatthe appeal be allowed.

The Assessor’sreasons are as set out.

T

he Operatorshould now cancel the parking charge notice forthwith.



26 February 2014

Reasons



Reasons for theAssessor’s Determination



It is the Appellant’s case that theparking charge notice was issued

incorrectly.

The Operator has not produced a copyof the parking charge notice, nor any

evidence to show a breach of theconditions of parking occurred, nor any

evidence that shows what theconditions of parking, in fact, were.



Accordingly Ihave no option but to allow the appeal.

Coupon-mad

Well done! Have you also added this success to the POPLA decisions sticky thread (on Crabman's sticky thread)? EDIT - I NOW SEE YOU HAVE!