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MPs debate Housing Benefit, 12 November c.1.45pm

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  • bloolagoon
    bloolagoon Posts: 7,973 Forumite
    Heycock wrote: »
    Couldn't have put it better, though I've tried in the past.
    but you may as well p**s into the wind as try to get anyone to take notice. You see, the little word "private" preceding tenant means you must be a rich, tory-voting, DM reading b*****d in the eyes of the bien pensants, the Guardian, the BBC, the labour party (who introduced LHA) and Unison.
    You're not one of theirs you see. You may be on a low income, you may be on benefits, you may well be the partner carer of someone disabled(so you're expected to share one room under LHA), but as far as those aforementioned groups are concerned, you don't count. You're not invited to the party.
    Even if you're in Unison, your membership fees are being used to fight "the bedroom tax" but they won't lift a finger to help reform LHA. Similar story if you're a paid up member of the labour party. The modern "labour" party is such a disgrace it isn't even embarrassed by it's hypocrisy.
    I'm not a tenant so this is pure none biased observation and it's the one area of discrimination that annoys me to the point of boiling.

    Why others cannot see this, add the none secure tenancy, bonds and other factors you'd think that private renters would be worthy of some consideration, nope, not even a morsel is given, it's like you are not worthy.
    Tomorrow is the most important thing in life
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,548 Forumite
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    Heycock wrote: »
    Even if you're in Unison, your membership fees are being used to fight "the bedroom tax" but they won't lift a finger to help reform LHA. Similar story if you're a paid up member of the labour party. The modern "labour" party is such a disgrace it isn't even embarrassed by it's hypocrisy.
    Every union must allow you to opt out of the political fund, though they rarely advertise it and may even try to hide it. Ask them for a political opt-out form. Then your subs won't be spent on this type of rubbish.
  • Heycock
    Heycock Posts: 1,359 Forumite
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    Morglin wrote: »



    No wonder a few councils have just decided to ignore any arrears from this and pay it themselves from central funds.

    .

    Lin :)

    "Central funds"? You mean ratepayers? Including low paid private tenants and also low paid social tenants who may not be enjoying the largesse of housing benefit or council tax benefit because they fall just outside the earnings limits? Someone has got to pay. Central funds don't come off a magic money tree behind the Town Hall
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,004 Forumite
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    i have never been a private tenant but i did protest about the LHA changes and wrote to my MP several times purely because of the unfairness at forcing people into ever lower standards of housing.

    i dont think many people consider private tenants to be 'rich' and think that yjru dont fight the cause pf those struggling with the reduction in assisstance is because they know this money will end up in the pockets of landlords, whilst many tenants will continue to live in substandard property.

    private rents need to be capped rather than allowing the landlords to set the rate/ they should also be inspected and a minimum standard enforced
  • dodger1 wrote: »
    I see nothing in your post I quoted from which mentions "good" or "bad" landlords.

    I've highlighed it for you.
    In terms of votes: How many voters are there in private lets and decent landlords? How many non working tenants of working age, are there in social housing and bad landlords?
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    edited 16 November 2013 at 10:15AM
    nannytone wrote: »

    private rents need to be capped rather than allowing the landlords to set the rate/ they should also be inspected and a minimum standard enforced

    But they aren't dealing with it and they should be dealing with this first.

    They could wipe out the slum landlords in the UK if they brought in the housing laws that other EU countries such as Germany has. i.e. low fixed rents; rent reduction if the tenants quality of life is suffereing; a 3 year contract that only the tenant can break if they have good reason. This also stops housing booms and busts.

    We wouldn't need more social housing if the UK adopted these superiour housing laws and we too would then just get the professional landlords.

    In countries with good houing laws, many prefer to rent as they have securtity; are free to move about to other areas withiout the hassle of buying and selling; have more spare money to spend on improving their quality of life (which also fuels their countries economy); can save for their retirement. Much better than spending 30+ years trying to save for a deopit and then trying to pay off a massive mortgage; while being worried about interest rate increases and the usual housing busts.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,004 Forumite
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    i totally agree, but nothing has been done.

    instead, social hoyusing is being targeted, and people are facing hardship, and in many instances, this is because they have nowhere else to go.

    then people say ... ' the private renters face this already/
    yes we know they do, and it is wrong.
    but the answer isnt to victimise another group surely?

    we should be trying to raise the standards of all, yet too many seem content to bring everyone down because it is too hard to lift the other froup up
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    catz1ct wrote: »
    I'm more interested in how the benefit cap is affecting people because some claimants have gone from having their full rent paid to 50p a week! I assume most of these cases are being covered by DHP at the moment and that's why we haven't heard much about it.

    Perhaps because most people have little sympathy for those people receiving such a high level of public support and wanting even more.
  • catz1ct wrote: »
    I'm more interested in how the benefit cap is affecting people because some claimants have gone from having their full rent paid to 50p a week! I assume most of these cases are being covered by DHP at the moment and that's why we haven't heard much about it.

    I read a report from Kensington and Chelsea, that landlords were dropping their rents; rather than have a house with no tenant and a mortgage to pay.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • Dunroamin wrote: »
    Perhaps because most people have little sympathy for those people receiving such a high level of public support and wanting even more.

    Especially when they move to an area they could never afford if they got a job and paid their own rent.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


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