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Agreement in principle much different to what they're willing to lend

Hi,

I enquired with Santander on two separate occasions within the last 1.5 months about getting a mortgage agreement in principle. First time was for 4.5x my salary and then for 5x my salary (I asked twice as you give them a figure and they either say yes or no, couldn't ask for the highest amount they'd be willing to lend). Both times they gave me the agreement with just a phone call.

I put down an offer for a house a few weeks ago which was accepted. I rang up recently asking if I could get the ball rolling with the mortgage and now suddenly they are only prepared to lend me 4x my salary.

The mortgage I need is 4.58x my salary.

Is this normal for them to do this? It seems ridiculous that it would go down so much and I've lost confidence in the whole process.

Does anyone know where I might be able to get a mortgage for that amount, and had success with them?

Comments

  • Dave_Ham
    Dave_Ham Posts: 6,045 Forumite
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    Why so desperate to use Santander?

    It could be due to credit scoring, existing unsecured commitments, type of income used, dependents, inexperience of person picking up the phone or any number of other variables.

    Have a chat with a broker, or do a fair amount of research. There are a few lenders that will go five times still.

    All the best
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    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it.
    This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser code of conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Much depends on your personal circumstances and the property you are intending to purchase.
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,503 Forumite
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    How did the phone call go?

    Was it just would you lend me 5x my income?
    Yes.

    Or did they take your details (income/expenditure/credit commitments etc)?
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Firepanda
    Firepanda Posts: 5 Forumite
    edited 11 November 2013 at 11:00PM
    ACG wrote: »
    How did the phone call go?

    Was it just would you lend me 5x my income?
    Yes.

    Or did they take your details (income/expenditure/credit commitments etc)?

    I spoke to what felt like their Glasgow mortgage department for the agreements, then to someone who worked in Bradford. I'm not sure but it may be the case that the one in Bradford was just taking the call due to a high volume at that time and wasn't really part of the mortgage team, after all it seemed to me like she just consulted their website rather than actually calculating what I could afford.

    As to how the call went, it was a full overview of my circumstances in every case.

    To the other guys, I'm single with no loan (except student), no dependants, and I asked for a 35 year mortgage (I'm 25 so that should be no probs)

    I wanted Santander for the 123 account bonus, plus I thought I'd have an easier time with them since I do all my banking there! :)
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Firepanda wrote: »
    and I asked for a 35 year mortgage

    Coupled with a high multiple you would be stretching affordability. As would have little capacity to absorb higher interest rates.
  • Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Coupled with a high multiple you would be stretching affordability. As would have little capacity to absorb higher interest rates.

    Really? Does asking for a 35 year hurt me? I thought it would go in my favour as the monthly cost would go down. I don't plan on taking 35 years to pay it off, but just thought it would help initially.

    If I were to ask for 25 would it benefit my application?
  • Dave_Ham
    Dave_Ham Posts: 6,045 Forumite
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    Not true, the longer the term the more chance of eeking out a little extra on the income multiples.

    Likely to be a solution, but not Santander by the sounds of it
    I am a Mortgage Broker
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it.
    This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser code of conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • amnblog
    amnblog Posts: 12,711 Forumite
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    if Santander wont lend you what you need you have to look elsewhere or you are banging on a closed door.

    (Incidentally there are probably a dozen or more factors that will affect the maximum affordability calculation generated by Santander).
    I am a Mortgage Broker

    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Broker, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Firepanda wrote: »
    If I were to ask for 25 would it benefit my application?

    Is it affordable though? If interest rates were to rise to say 6%.
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