Student residence type accomodation for non-students

olly300

Local authorities do not give blocks of flats like that planning permission with ease.

If an area is full of houses and flats containing a mixture of residents i.e. families with children, couples, singles then building a block for temporary residents in their 20s would be out of character in the area and raise loads of objections.

Anyone not staying in a place for a year is considered temporary. Councils in some areas already have issues with university students causing a nuisance. In fact in some towns and cities whole streets consist of student rented houses. In summer the places are empty.

onthewayout wrote: »

Aren't the relatively high rents in actual student residences down to the universties themselves funneling first years into them as a default option? You're right though, they are expensive (albeit bright, shiny and safe looking) and I don't know what the margins are like for the owners. I just assumed there would be economies of scale because they pack a lot of tenants into each site.

The high rents are due to the cost of utility bills and maintenance. Plus the newer buildings have to cover the cost of them being built which are mostly land costs.

In one of the unis a relation of mine goes to there is a difference of approximately £40 a week between the newest built properties and the older properties. The older properties are smaller, more cramped together and more students share facilities.

onthewayout

Depressing but predictable, I suppose. Progress is fine as long as it happens Somewhere Else. The 1 year residence cutoff seems completely arbitrary - who actually pulls these numbers out of hats?

I don't suppose it would change anyone's mind that as this wouldn't be a student block, there'd be no issue with it being deserted all summer? Presumably less people getting drunk in public too.

olly300 wrote: »

Local authorities do not give blocks of flats like that planning permission with ease.

If an area is full of houses and flats containing a mixture of residents i.e. families with children, couples, singles then building a block for temporary residents in their 20s would be out of character in the area and raise loads of objections.

Anyone not staying in a place for a year is considered temporary. Councils in some areas already have issues with university students causing a nuisance. In fact in some towns and cities whole streets consist of student rented houses. In summer the places are empty.

flea72

onthewayout wrote: »

In the place I'm thinking of, the rooms would be self-contained with a fridge and microwave, and as secure as a normal flat.

I think that would be good for friendly social types too, because it would be easier to find a replacement tenant if you got a new job and needed to move in a hurry. Sharing a normal house means you're living in other people's pockets. Not that I really mind, but I know from experience it makes moving out more complicated.

I dont get the living in other peoples pockets. Student flats are no different to house share. You get a bedroom, maybe en-suite, but you share kitchen/living areas with up to about 10 people. Bedrooms all have locks, so no other tenant has access to your room.

Fridges and microwaves in rooms are usually prohibited in student accommodation

From the way you word it, you seem to think tenants are linked in a house-share. Most house-shares i know rent each room on its own tenancy with bills included, so people move in and out at different times and all liability is individual. Although i dont know any tenancy that would include phone, espec with everyone having mobiles nowadays.

paddyrg

Caravan parks are similar to OP's request - worth thinking about?

another_username_3

There's a company who offer a service similar to this in Leeds city centre. They rent out as many flats as they can on 'long term' rolling 3 month contracts. They also have contracts with local businesses and offer serviced apartments on a daily basis for business trips etc. There's a coin operated laundry, internet and electric have to be purchased on site. Each 'flat' has it's own bathroom and fold out Japanese style kitchen, so no real shared facilities as such.

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I spent some time in YWCA hostels and a charity run hostel. Lots of students in them but also some people who were working (me amongst this group). It was mine for as long as I paid rent. The room was slightly more expensive than a run down bedsit (so not the cheapest possible option) but was good for me as I'd just come out of a nightmare flat share and before that a lodger situation with no lock on the door.

The advantage was you had access to a full kitchen, the places were clean, with clear rules on what they and you could/should do with locks on the doors (rarely available in a bedsit) and 'conciege' service.

I am sure these places still exist, but will only be available to younger residents i.e. under 26. Older people don't have much of an offering as far as hostels are concerned.

olly300

onthewayout wrote: »

Depressing but predictable, I suppose. Progress is fine as long as it happens Somewhere Else. The 1 year residence cutoff seems completely arbitrary - who actually pulls these numbers out of hats?

Residents have issues with short term renters as they don't take care of the local area i.e. dumping rubbish, noise nuisance, not talking to neighbours.

In addition local authorities have plans for the type of properties they want in their specific areas.

If an area is full of housing for families then blocks of one-room flats for single working people aren't wanted especially as residents in these types of blocks will be working and so will require cars and vans to use for work or to get to work, and will require lots of parking spaces.

There is also an issue where I live and have lived - though it's being resolved now - that flats above shops weren't being used but left empty. Some shops had 3 flats above them that were all empty. Now more and more these are being done up and rented out. The target market for these flats are professional adult sharers but those without a need for their own vehicles.

onthewayout wrote: »

I don't suppose it would change anyone's mind that as this wouldn't be a student block, there'd be no issue with it being deserted all summer? Presumably less people getting drunk in public too.

Students can and are banned from having cars in the purpose built blocks of flats they occupy in cities and towns. In addition those rooms are rented out in the summer months.

ka7e

I know this type of accommodation is available in London (and elsewhere), but I think it's only for "key workers".

jayss

There are hostel type places that have longer term guests as well as short. Like groups of bedsores with a front desk and communal areas.

More expensive Fizzy living have self contained flats 1-3 bed with phone/broadband included, on site handyman etc.