If a website has the cheek to charge you for shipping, it should be next day delivery

System

Azari wrote: »

I think you have nailed him there.

He was obviously so confused that he didn't realise that admitting that the customers pay for delivery means it's not free.

Of course, being Goater he had to come on and try and get the last word with some irrelevance.



It does make you wonder, doesn't it?



:rotfl: Hard, but fair. :rotfl:

You need to read all my posts again and not just selectively quote me (sigh).

Ps you probably meant "harsh but fair".

RichardD1970

Azari wrote: »

Of course, being Goater he had to come on and try and get the last word with some irrelevance.
:rotfl: Hard, but fair. :rotfl:

goater78 wrote: »

You need to read all my posts again and not just selectively quote me (sigh).

Ps you probably meant "harsh but fair".

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Point proven?

System

RichardD1970 wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Point proven?

You have to post irrelevance because when you attempt to post a reasoned argument it gets selectively quoted by certain posters in a desperate attempt to try and defend a weak position.

Besides if you're going to call someone a fool it's only sensible to make sure you do it without making yourself look foolish

Sheldon_Cooper

goater78 wrote: »

You have to post irrelevance because when you attempt to post a reasoned argument it gets selectively quoted by certain posters in a desperate attempt to try and defend a weak position.

But looking at this thread you haven't attempted a reasoned argument. Perhaps if you had you'd have seen that your argument had no legs long ago. All you've done is make snide comments about other people not understanding business as you show over and over again that you are the one lacking understanding.

You did come up with this piece of nonsense:

goater78 wrote: »

On a side note it costs about 37p per parcel for a business to send a parcel to the weight of 17kg.

But I can't see that you ever backed it up when challenged.

System

Sheldon_Cooper wrote: »

But looking at this thread you haven't attempted a reasoned argument. Perhaps if you had you'd have seen that your argument had no legs long ago. All you've done is make snide comments about other people not understanding business as you show over and over again that you are the one lacking understanding.

You did come up with this piece of nonsense:


But I can't see that you ever backed it up when challenged.

It's not nonsense I just can't provide a link to back it up. Private corporate deals between retailers and courier firms are sadly not publicised as web links.

Therefore as the only evidence I have of this is my word it didn't seem worth pursuing as it's unsubstantiated!

Azari

Lolz, I wonder how long it will take G to respond.

I wonder what piece of surrealism he's going to come up with, this time.

ETA: Four minutes. Impressive!

Azari

goater78 wrote: »

It's not nonsense I just can't provide a link to back it up. Private corporate deals between retailers and courier firms are sadly not publicised as web links.

Therefore as the only evidence I have of this is my word it didn't seem worth pursuing as it's unsubstantiated!

It's complete and utter nonsense.

If it were true, why would you not be able to find a link?

Do you seriously believe that any courier can make a profit delivering parcels up to 17kg for 37 pence a shot?

Even paying the driver minimum wage they wouldn't be able to make the end deliveries for that price.

Anyway, it is, like everything else you've posted on this thread, completely irrelevant to your argument. As you admitted some posts back that the customer does pay, and hence your 'free' delivery argument has been wrong from the very beginning, why don't you stop now rather than just digging an ever deeper hole for yourself?

System

Azari wrote: »

It's complete and utter nonsense.

If it were true, why would you not be able to find a link?

Do you seriously believe that any courier can make a profit delivering parcels up to 17kg for 37 pence a shot?

Even paying the driver minimum wage they wouldn't be able to make the end deliveries for that price.

Anyway, it is, like everything else you've posted on this thread, completely irrelevant to your argument. As you admitted some posts back that the customer does pay, and hence your 'free' delivery argument has been wrong from the very beginning, why don't you stop now rather than just digging an ever deeper hole for yourself?

You probably find this hard to believe but the courier firm is not picking up just one parcel at a time. They're picking up thousands a day

What I have been objecting all through this thread was your naive assertion that if a company charged for delivery they would then sell their products at cheaper prices. That's what shows a complete lack of business knowledge and is a very simplistic view on how pricing in this industry works.

I have provided all sorts of arguments on this point which have been accepted by many posters but as always the cabal of you, Sheldon and monglex have deliberately refused to accept this and have attempted to make the argument personal.

bazster

Add me to that cabal if you like, you are talking cobblers.

Azari

goater78 wrote: »

You probably find this hard to believe but the courier firm is not picking up just one parcel at a time. They're picking up thousands a day

And that allows them to sort, move around the country, and deliver 17kg packages for 37p how, exactly?

What I have been objecting all through this thread was your naive assertion that if a company charged for delivery they would then sell their products at cheaper prices. That's what shows a complete lack of business knowledge and is a very simplistic view on how pricing in this industry works.

If they are offering free delivery, and they then abandon that policy and charge, then, ceteris paribus, they can reduce the price of their products.

Obviously they are not obliged to and there may well not be a one to one correlation between delivery costs and either customers or products. I don't know if this is what has been vexing you because you love to talk in generalities, accusing people of being naive, rather than putting forward a cogent argument.

I have provided all sorts of arguments on this point

Not really.

You best effort seems to be some nonsense about businesses being able to get 17kg parcels delivered for 37p a go.

I doubt anyone was foolish enough to believe that for a second.

That fact that you did clearly demonstrates that you are utterly clueless about the real world costs of running a courier service and, I would suspect, if you can believe that, you can have precious little idea about business in general.