Royal Mail CRB Checks

gb12345

stix62 wrote: »

I had a std check done earlier this year

I'd use a condom in future if I was you

ethanhawk

It does say that Royal Mail use Scotland but then who knows.
Ive given up any hope of getting the job now.

Have looked on a Posties website and same as here , some people saying doesn't show up and others saying it does.

So prop best to think i haven't got a chance and see what happens.

Thanks for the help

conductor71

I wonder whether ethanhawk got his job at Royal Mail and whether his CRB check disclosed his spent convictions? My belief is that if the check is carried out through Disclosure Scotland then only unspent convictions are disclosed- not spent ones. Although I can't find anything specifically confirming that Royal Mail uses Disclosure Scotland (as ethanhawk claimed), I found the following question and answer which seems to indicate that Royal Mail are only interested in the declaration of unspent convictions and any pending prosecutions:

I currently have an unspent criminal conviction, would this be acceptable to Royal Mail?

You are expected to answer truthfully any questions regarding unspent convictions or pending prosecutions and Royal Mail Group Ltd will require your consent to a criminal record check as part of the recruitment process. The following offences if ‘unspent’ are considered unacceptable in new recruits to Royal Mail.

Please note: The list below is not exhaustive but instead is designed to give an indication of the type of offences that Royal Mail normally considers unacceptable.

1. Theft and all offences of dishonest appropriation (including going equipped to burgle, taking a vehicle without consent, handling stolen property, making-off without paying)
2. Fraud, forgery or counterfeiting offences (including benefit deception, traveling on public transport without paying)
3. Firearms and weapons offences (including possessing a sharp object in public, possession of a noxious gas)
4. Terrorism (other than certain conflict-related offences subject to the Northern Ireland Good Friday Agreement - these do not need to be declared during application and will be considered by applying the employers’ guidance issued by the Office of the First Minister & Deputy First Minister, Northern Ireland)
5. Offences under the Postal Services Act 2000 and prior legislation
6. Arson
7. Supply or intent to supply any category of drugs or possession of category A drugs
8. Offences against the Justice System (including perjury, bribery, making false statements, contempt of court)
9. Offences against the person (including assault, causing grievous or actual bodily harm, battery, affray, racial or verbal harassment, making threats) •
10. Sexual offences
11. Breaches of orders
In addition for certain roles e.g. driving vacancies, the requirements may differ and for some roles may be determined by industry security standards.
Please be aware that none of these examples are exhaustive and if unsure, advice should be sought prior to making any decisions based on these.
For further information please see the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act

Since this thread was created, there has been an important judgment in the Supreme Court (18th June 2014) which concerns the disclosure of police warnings and cautions on enhanced criminal records certificates. In the case of R (on the application of T and another) (Respondents) v Secretary of State for the Home Department and another (Appellants), it was decided that such disclosures of warnings and cautions amounted to an interference with the appellants' right to privacy under Article 8 of the ECHR. :j

Unfortunately, I am being prevented from posting the relevant links, which is most unhelpful. I don't know what changes, if any, the government will have to make to the CRB procedures. It altered its CRB checks regime last year after it lost an earlier round of the same case in the Court of Appeal. Whether it will now have to make further changes after this Supreme Court ruling, I can't say.

patanne

Well according to a post in January he is a postman (or was in Jan)

Tiddlywinks

Why the need to resurrect this thread?

conductor71

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

Why the need to resurrect this thread?

1) Because the answers submitted contained conflicting information. I am specifically referring to the comments made by stix62 which claimed that his spent convictions were disclosed on a 'standard' CRB check (now called a DBS check). It would seem that this is correct if the check is made to the DBS, but incorrect if the check is made to Disclosure Scotland. Therefore it is vital to know which organisation will perform the check.
[My correction to the above comments added on 27 Jan 2015: it seems I am wrong- spent convictions ARE declared on a STANDARD Disclosure Scotland check. Spent convictions are NOT declared on a BASIC Disclosure Scotland check. I guess I was thinking of a Basic Disclosure Scotland check and got confused. There is no equivalent Basic check with the DBS in England and Wales- copy and paste this link below for further details:

disclosurescotland.co.uk/disclosureinformation/index (then add dot htm to the end of this address)]

2) Because anyone reading this thread will almost certainly not be aware of the recent Supreme Court judgment which has strengthened the right to privacy of people who have received police warnings or cautions on their record in the very distant past and don't believe they should still have to declare these to employers. More information about the judgment can be found on a blog posting dated 19th June 2014 on a legal blog called Panopticon. As I've already said, I can't post the exact link so you'll have to do a google search.

kellyggemini

Hi all, I after some advice. I served 10 years in the military, applied for a postwoman job in aug. Had the interview and was offererd a conditional offer for a job two weeks ago.


My CRB was processing...now for the last 2 weeks it says **submitted** just wondered if any one else has experienced this and when is likely that il be starting.....my patience is wearing thin.


Kind regards


Kelly

sacha28

kellyggemini wrote: »

Hi all, I after some advice. I served 10 years in the military, applied for a postwoman job in aug. Had the interview and was offererd a conditional offer for a job two weeks ago.


My CRB was processing...now for the last 2 weeks it says **submitted** just wondered if any one else has experienced this and when is likely that il be starting.....my patience is wearing thin.


Kind regards


Kelly

Be patient Kelly, my enhanced DBS took nearly 7 weeks to come through (despite the website stating it takes 5 days!). It depends on which locality police force they approach and how efficient and prompt they are with the information (this is info received from a relative who is head of recruitment for a trust). It's very frustrating but there is absolutely nothing you can do about it, it's out of your control.

so_very_confused

Hi Kelly The processing time can be longer if you have had several addresses. There are timescales for the processing of checks which were on the main site. It is worth checking this and keeping an eye on progress. I had a check that took 12 weeks to process, losing out on a job in the process. I eventually rang the police force concerned to speed things up, they were not happy but I got my check. Good luck