Are we reasonable

annmaria2

Thank you guys kindly for your advice, its awesome to have people here that can give different views and actually help.

We will go negotiating route and see what will happen however I still feel like we have been taken for a ride despite all the help we have given the LL.

Dukesy

annmaria2 wrote: »

Well we have spoken to family friend who is an inspector and he said its not possible to achieve D with boiler that is over 20 years old and no roof insulation. The house should be E or even F. Unless the person that has done the actual assessment had no clue what he/she was doing.
If we knew the house was for example E rating we would never have rented the place.

I wouldn't place so much importance on an EPC if I were you. Our house was a G at purchase. It's probably better now, as we've crammed every nook and cranny with insulation and replaced the electric heaters with a back boiler run central heating and hot water system, amongst other things.

However, despite its G rating, it's the warmest and cheapest to run house we've ever lived in. Several feet of stone between you and the elements is a damn good insulator, but the EPC doesn't take that into account.

annmaria2

Your house must be much better now. But imagine if you didn't do all the work your winter gas bill for most minimal usage would have been £700 per quarter like ours. :eek:

In_a_spin

I don't think EPC are very accurate.

My Father had a EPC inspection on his property in 2011. He then had additional loft insulation, the wall cavity injected and a new tank jacket (which was recommended in the report).

We had a new one done 3 months ago as the property is being sold and the rating was worse than before he had all of the work done.

Dukesy

annmaria2 wrote: »

Your house must be much better now. But imagine if you didn't do all the work your winter gas bill for most minimal usage would have been £700 per quarter like ours. :eek:

Assuming this is to me? No gas - the back boiler is heated by our multi fuel burner, and as OH is a carpenter and joiner, a lot of the stuff we burn is free, as it's his offcuts

But seriously, the insulation we've crammed in hasn't made the most difference in the world, and despite the fact that only a short period of heating is necessary, as the house holds its warmth beautifully, our EPC will still be pretty terrible as there are no cavity walls and so on.

annmaria2

Wow! great Dukesy, that's really cool, our house does not hold any warmth. It all escapes within 30-40 min after you switch off heating. well hopefully we can move out soon.

Jonesy_McJones

anselld wrote: »

Are you suggesting it has been advertised as D when it is not? You can check the actual EPC here ...
https://www.epcregister.com/reportSearchAddressByPostcode.html

Sorry - slightly off topic...
I just checked my house on there - and the date of the EPC is Feb 2012 - almost 2 years after I moved in. Now surely someone has to actually go into the house to do this? Very confused

anselld

Jonesy_McJones wrote: »

Sorry - slightly off topic...
I just checked my house on there - and the date of the EPC is Feb 2012 - almost 2 years after I moved in. Now surely someone has to actually go into the house to do this? Very confused

When you say "my house", do you mean one you rent?
But yes, as far as I know you need to get inside the property.

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I rent this house.., the EPC said the place had loft insulation. The first winter it was noticeably colder upstairs compared to downstairs, so much so my children couldn't sleep in their bedrooms. Went into the loft and discovered only a tiny part of the loft had been insulated.

I got some insulation for £1 a roll from EDF or something.., and the difference was instantly noticeable.

Well worth doing in my opinion. Never having lived in a place with no insulation at all before, I didn't realise the difference would be so noticeable.

I live in a terraced house with no cavity wall insulation. But the difference was huge.

sandsni

If the LL has the proper Gas Safety certificates, then I don't think you can use the argument that the boiler is unsafe, even if it is inefficient. Without getting a new EPC done it would be hard to prove that the rating is not what it says on the EPC you were given.

If you have underheated the house (and 1.5 hours per day in the winter we had last year sounds very low) I hope you haven't exacerbated any problems with condensation.

You're obviously unhappy with the house, so I would suggest that, rather than "cutting off your nose to spite your face" it might be best to take the chance of an early get-out.