What a load of Eds....

michaels

Mr Balls sacked the head of Child servicers in Harringey in a pique of tabloid driven rightiousness.

Now she has had a big payout for unfair dismissal and he is complaining about it.

To me this is just a little bit rich considering:
a) He was responsible for her sacking without due process to satisfy the tabloids
b) No doubt he and his party championed the employment rights legislation under which she has been paid out.

Thrugelmir

Biazzre world we live in. When failure is so highly rewarded.

ILW

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Biazzre world we live in. When failure is so highly rewarded.

Would she have got over a million if she had let two kids die?

michaels

Even if I (or you) are grossly negligent at work the law says due process needs to be followed in our dismissal. By all means challenge the law and lobby for it to be changed but it seems odd criticise a payment due under the law of the land?

dotdash79

She was more than likely going to be sacked for failing to follow process, however her employer didn't follow the process.

You can't sack people for not following process and do the same thing and get away with it. Interestingly the court recommended 3 months pay off.

It's not great to see however 2 wrongs don't make a right.

zagfles

Another example of his utter hypocrisy. God help us if he becomes chancellor.

ILW

dotdash79 wrote: »

She was more than likely going to be sacked for failing to follow process, however her employer didn't follow the process.

You can't sack people for not following process and do the same thing and get away with it. Interestingly the court recommended 3 months pay off.

It's not great to see however 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Guess it's a case of the law and justice being two different things.

CLAPTON

sadly children are killed quite often by their parents: roughly one a day

often they are known to be a risk by the social service/police/medical people etc

who should we sack?

the head of social services; the head of the medical authority; local top policemen, Council CEO, government ministers, chief constable?

and / or the front line staff who dealt with the child?

if we do sack them should we do follow the legal due process ?

should we only sack a person when there is a media campaign?

should we only sack some-one when a top politician is fearful for his job and a newbe opposition leader is pointing out it happened in a Labour council


does such a campaign improve the prospect of recruiting good quality people in places like Haringey?

does the campaign save any children from harm?

chewmylegoff

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Biazzre world we live in. When failure is so highly rewarded.

I quite agree, it is astounding that Balls is still a front bench politician...

Yorkie1

They were talking to some Social Services Professor about this on the radio this morning. In discussion, he made the point that the media had whipped up a certain amount of the storm around the story; the presenter (who clearly then went onto the attack in the way that any media presenter does when challenged on whether they get a story's tone right) then asked whether it would have been right for the individual to remain in post for as long as due process took once there was such a storm about their competence.

You do wonder whether the presenter had thought through the implications of what they were saying: effectively, the greater the public outcry for someone's head because of a media storm, the less you need to follow due process. No lynch mob mentality there, then ...

Whether or not it would have been right to sack the individual, you can't just throw the rule of law into the [STRIKE]book[/STRIKE] bin because it suits you politically. That way is anarchy and I'd expect more of a government irrespective of its hue.

Thrugelmir

CLAPTON wrote: »

sadly children are killed quite often by their parents: roughly one a day

These events rarely just happen. The families are well known to social services, the GP, the hospital, the school, the police etc long before. You'll be surprised how even hospital staff including Doctors fail to notify the Named Nurse of suspicious injuries. Where the reason given simply doesn't match. So I would expect the head to at least be aware of the serious case reviews on their patch.