Land Registry not clear

sarah_liz

Hope you can follow this....
We owned three properties within the same parcel of land. We then sold two of these properties and kept one for ourselves. We instructed a surveyor to make new plans of which property owned which piece of land (as the boundaries were changed and garden divided up), and then asked our solicitor to submit these to the Land Registry.
We can now see that the two properties that we sold have got the correct plans on the Land Registry. However, the third property (which we now live in) shows the old LR plan and number. This doesn't include the 1/4 acre garden or the drive!!
I have spoken to the solicitor who says only the two sold properties plans were submitted as it is "obvious" that the remaining land is with our third property.
However, we now wish to sell our property, so we will need to show the correct land to the Estate Agent and the buyers solicitors will want to see the LR plan - this being incorrect!
(Hope you are all following this so far!)

My questions are:
When we paid the solicitor to submit plans should they have done so for all three properties?
Does the LR produce new Title Plan numbers for each property when the plans/land have altered?

Tixy

So was it all 1 parcel of land on 1 title plan initially?

If so then I would expect that the solicitor would submit the plans for the 2 new properties/titles, and the retained property would therefore be the remainder of the property (keeping the original title plan number).

When we split our plot I am fairly sure we only provided a plan of the new plot's boundaries.

G_M

Simplest solution:

Phone the Land Registry. Have the various Title numbers to hand:

http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/contact-us

edit: will the same solicitor be acting for you when you sell? If so, ask him if he will have any problems with the sale (and if so, why he did not do a proper job initially).

Land_Registry

I assume that the property was divided up and then the two parts sold separately and that the registration of each sale then took place in the way Tixy suggests.

Once the 2 parts have been sold off and removed you are in effect left with the remainder of the title - the key quesiton then is what has happened to the 1/4 acre garden or the drive you refer to. Have you checked the remaining title plan?

The answer to your two questions would be
The sales of the two removed parts should have been sufficient to achieve the end result required. The only time the solicitor may have needed to lodge details affecting all three parts is if the title was being split in three prior to any sales off, which is rare.

Yes, new title plans and numbers would be allocated to the two sold parts but the retained part is likely to have kept it's original title number. If you search online against the title number you should be able to view/download the details. If you can't then Contact Us using the online report form and supply the title details involved to query further

princeofpounds

Yes, if the old plan doesn't include the 1/4 acre or drive, why were you expecting the new one to? It's key to being able to understand what has occurred.

sarah_liz

I have made an appointment to see the solicitor tomorrow. As far as I am concerned we asked that they submit all three plans for three new title deeds. Not just submit two and say the third is the remainder.

"Once the 2 parts have been sold off and removed you are in effect left with teh remainder of the title - the key quesiton then is what has happened to the 1/4 acre garden or the drive you refer to. Have you checked the remaining title plan?"

The 1/4 acre garden used to belong to property two, but now belongs to property three. According to the LR property two still owns this land as the solicitor didn't submit any plans for property three!.

I hope to get things straightened out with the solicitor tomorrow.