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Warren Evans Bond

They've just released an application for 7.5% interest on a 3 year bond. I've used them to buy furniture before, but I wanted to ask for advice on investing in bonds as I've never had savings before and we're saving for 3-4yrs for a deposit on a house.
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  • Jevvers
    Jevvers Posts: 650 Forumite
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    Ditto. It's an attractive rate but I don't know how to judge the risk.
  • kerri_dfw
    kerri_dfw Posts: 4,556 Forumite
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    They do make beautiful furniture, we have a large order coming next month, but whether we should become investors as well as customers I'm not sure. I'm going to gamble the minimum of my own savings I think as it might pay off, however I would like to know how to judge the risk to know whether to invest any of my OHs inheritance or not.
    Diary: Getting back on track for 2013 and beyond
    DEBT FREE 13-10-13 :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:
    Beautiful daughter born 11.1.14
    Mortgage: [STRIKE]£399,435.91[/STRIKE] £377218.83
    Deposit loan from Dad: £9000[STRIKE]£10000[/STRIKE]
  • gozomark
    gozomark Posts: 2,069 Forumite
    are you prepared to lose all the money you invest ?
  • kerri_dfw
    kerri_dfw Posts: 4,556 Forumite
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    gozomark wrote: »
    are you prepared to lose all the money you invest ?
    so investing in the bond is the equivalent of saying "there's a bloke down the road that wants some help in expanding his business, I might lose everything, but then again it might pay off...so I'll put in what I can afford to lose" ?
    Diary: Getting back on track for 2013 and beyond
    DEBT FREE 13-10-13 :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:
    Beautiful daughter born 11.1.14
    Mortgage: [STRIKE]£399,435.91[/STRIKE] £377218.83
    Deposit loan from Dad: £9000[STRIKE]£10000[/STRIKE]
  • dunstonh
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    kerri_dfw wrote: »
    so investing in the bond is the equivalent of saying "there's a bloke down the road that wants some help in expanding his business, I might lose everything, but then again it might pay off...so I'll put in what I can afford to lose" ?

    effectively, yes.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • kerri_dfw
    kerri_dfw Posts: 4,556 Forumite
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    Ok I understand :) thanks. I shall put it to my OH that way and we can then decide how much confidence we have in them still being profitable in 3 years time. Thank you
    Diary: Getting back on track for 2013 and beyond
    DEBT FREE 13-10-13 :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:
    Beautiful daughter born 11.1.14
    Mortgage: [STRIKE]£399,435.91[/STRIKE] £377218.83
    Deposit loan from Dad: £9000[STRIKE]£10000[/STRIKE]
  • ColdIron
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    kerri_dfw wrote: »
    we can then decide how much confidence we have in them still being profitable in 3 years time
    You are not a shareholder so it's not a question of how profitable they may be in 3 years but whether they are still in business and can meet their obligations to their bondholders
  • kerri_dfw
    kerri_dfw Posts: 4,556 Forumite
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    ColdIron wrote: »
    You are not a shareholder so it's not a question of how profitable they may be in 3 years but whether they are still in business and can meet their obligations to their bondholders
    ok, yes I understand I think I just worded it badly.
    Diary: Getting back on track for 2013 and beyond
    DEBT FREE 13-10-13 :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:
    Beautiful daughter born 11.1.14
    Mortgage: [STRIKE]£399,435.91[/STRIKE] £377218.83
    Deposit loan from Dad: £9000[STRIKE]£10000[/STRIKE]
  • Jevvers
    Jevvers Posts: 650 Forumite
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    I agree. There must be some risk to expansion as cash flow can get stretched. I am inclined to go for it with a decent chunk but not so much that it would be a disaster if we lose it!
  • jimjames
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    kerri_dfw wrote: »
    They've just released an application for 7.5% interest on a 3 year bond. I've used them to buy furniture before, but I wanted to ask for advice on investing in bonds as I've never had savings before and we're saving for 3-4yrs for a deposit on a house.


    If you are doing this then I'd say it was definitely not suitable even if you have all the money now.

    It isn't something that you can easily add a few quid to each month and as others have said you could lose all your money. Remember the capital is only guaranteed at redemption of the bond so if you sell it before you may make a loss even if the company is still trading.

    Saving for a house deposit is probably best in a savings account although if you are prepared to risk it then you may want to look at the stock market too even though 4 years would be too short in many eyes.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
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