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Renting out my home (pushed into being a LL)

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  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Smith_007 wrote: »
    When you rent it out, it is no longer your home.

    In fact, once rented out, it is legally not your property.

    It _IS_ still your property. It _IS_ still your house.

    It is not your home, true.
    You have restricted rights over access, and none over residence, true.

    But it IS still your property. You still own it.
  • Kazzaroo
    Kazzaroo Posts: 145 Forumite
    Smith_007 wrote: »

    The example I gave (and have described previously) was a landlord promising a young family a long term let knowing the mother was pregnant and yet issuing a section 21 notice 4 months later. The landlord never had any intention of letting for more than 6 months.

    Thats a different kettle of fish,the LL knew the tenant was pregnant when starting the tenancy,How is a LL suppose to know if a tenant falls pregnant while they are in the property ? stalk them on facebook ? Assume the T will inform LL ? (which most wont because its non of LL business)
  • AdrianC wrote: »
    It _IS_ still your property. It _IS_ still your house.

    It is not your home, true.
    You have restricted rights over access, and none over residence, true.

    But it IS still your property. You still own it.

    Kindly read the link I posted. It is legally not the landlords property for the period of the tenancy.
    http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2010/08/31/urban-myth-when-a-landlord-lets-a-property-its-still-his/
    How is a LL suppose to know if a tenant falls pregnant while they are in the property ?
    They don't, silly :p
    My point is, must of us human beings would not like to turf a woman they found to be pregnant out of their home. Regardless of any legal right to do so.

    The ethical question I'm posing (what would you do in such a situation) is an example of how emotion can easily come into the rental business. :A
    Back off man, I'm a scientist. ;)

    Daily Mail readers?
    :naughty:
    Can you make sense of the Daily Mail’s effort to classify every inanimate object into those that cause cancer and those that prevent it ?
  • Smith_007 wrote: »
    Kindly read the link I posted. It is legally not the landlords property for the period of the tenancy.
    http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2010/08/31/urban-myth-when-a-landlord-lets-a-property-its-still-his/

    They don't, silly :p
    My point is, must of us human beings would not like to turf a woman they found to be pregnant out of their home. Regardless of any legal right to do so.

    The ethical question I'm posing (what would you do in such a situation) is an example of how emotion can easily come into the rental business. :A

    This is precisely what I was disagreeing with.

    If the landlord acts dishonestly then that's one thing but this is completely unrelated.

    Emotion shouldn't influence what should be a business decision.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Smith_007 wrote: »
    Kindly read the link I posted. It is legally not the landlords property for the period of the tenancy.

    I think the discrepancy here comes from the definition of "property".

    In the financial definition, then - yes - it is still the landlord's property. Asset, if you prefer.

    The landlord _owns_ the property.

    In the estate agent definition, then - no - it is the tenant's property. Residence, if you prefer.

    The tenant _lives in_ the property.

    Gotta love the English language, sometimes...
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Yorkie1 wrote: »
    You've already had the link to the New LLs thread.

    There's one for Choosing a LA, but I can't put my hands on its link at the moment - hopefully someone else has it to hand.

    Letting Agents (Tips for selecting, and tips for sacking them)

    New Landlords (information for new or prospective landlords)
  • Kazzaroo
    Kazzaroo Posts: 145 Forumite
    Smith_007 wrote: »
    The ethical question I'm posing (what would you do in such a situation) is an example of how emotion can easily come into the rental business. :A

    In that situation i would judge each tenant on their own merits,someone who has been obstructive when ive been trying to do repairs or gas safe etc i wouldnt give them the benefit of extending it however if they have been "model" tenants i would.
  • Kynthia
    Kynthia Posts: 5,692 Forumite
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    It's a business arrangement and both tenants and landlords need to understand their rights and their responsibilities. The tenant has 'exclusive possession' of the property for the duration of the tenancy but has the responsibility to act in a tenant like manner in the property. The landlord has the right to inspect and the responsibility to maintain the property and comply with regulations and laws such as deposit protection and gas safety. Even when a landlord uses an agent the responsibility still lies with them.

    OP, I would suggest you join a landlord association as they can give you advice specific to your situation and support. There will be tax issues as well as the fact that tenants don't have to leave when landlord's give notice, which can make it difficult when you return and often involves going to court for eviction. Others have mentioned above something you can do beforehand which would make this slightly easier due to the most likely reason you'd give notice is to move back into the property, and hopefully the LL association can help you with this.
    Don't listen to me, I'm no expert!
  • sandsni
    sandsni Posts: 683 Forumite
    Smith_007 wrote: »
    They don't, silly :p
    My point is, must of us human beings would not like to turf a woman they found to be pregnant out of their home. Regardless of any legal right to do so.

    Shouldn't a pregnant woman have the same right to be evicted as a non-pregnant woman (or a man)? We keep being told it's not an illness and no grounds to discriminate :eek: :rotfl:
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