SSD and Ccleaner

50Twuncle

I was told not to defrag SSD's - it reduces their life
What about running Ccleaner - this doesn't move data around (as in defragging) but is this safe to do ?

S0litaire

It should be ok. Think Ccleaner just removes files
You just need to be careful with XP, as it does not know the difference between a SSD and a traditional spiny hard disk. so it might try to run a Defrag. newer OS's have Defrag automatically disabled for SSD'd

50Twuncle

S0litaire wrote: »

It should be ok. Think Ccleaner just removes files
You just need to be careful with XP, as it does not know the difference between a SSD and a traditional spiny hard disk. so it might try to run a Defrag. newer OS's have Defrag automatically disabled for SSD'd

I understand that Win 7 recognises the SSD and won't let MS defragger defrag the drive - 3rd party defraggers may still work ??
I have yet to prove this though...

S0litaire

if you have Win7 and an SSD, if you go in to the defrag program the SSD won't be listed so it can't be defraged.

50Twuncle

S0litaire wrote: »

if you have Win7 and an SSD, if you go in to the defrag program the SSD won't be listed so it can't be defraged.

I do and it is and can be !!
I tried it and it does let me....

S0litaire

did you upgrade your Win7? if it was a clean install then it should have disabled a few things when it foind itself on a SSD.

Here's a Microsoft Support article on how to turn off a few SSD Unfriendly Windows Services:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2727880

50Twuncle

S0litaire wrote: »

did you upgrade your Win7? if it was a clean install then it should have disabled a few things when it foind itself on a SSD.

Here's a Microsoft Support article on how to turn off a few SSD Unfriendly Windows Services:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2727880

Thanks - done it - about to reboot
fingers crossed

50Twuncle

Wow - that is amazing
It now boots up even faster
a genuine 8 seconds from cold to running
mind you it is an i7 with 12Gb RAM and a 256Gb SSD !!
Thanks

S0litaire

glad it's working ^_^

DavidFx

Fragmentation occurs on mechanical drives when there is not enough contiguous space to write the entire file - so the file is split and written to different free parts of the disc. As the disc becomes full then the fragmentation gets worse. As the heads now have to move to multiple parts of the disc this slows things down.
With SSDs there are no heads and the time to access any block in the memory is the same. In fact, SSDs deliberately fragment the data to ensure each part of the memory is used as there is a limited write lifetime for each memory location.
So there is no benefit in defragging an ssd

danthemoneysavingman

Found it odd how this thread went from "can I use CCleaner on SSD?" to "I'm defragging my SSD" - ??