Should the energy industry be renationalised?

worried_jim

Southend1 wrote: »

Yet train fares would be 20% lower if the railways were renationalised.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22700805

Shame the idol staff would always be on strike.

Southend1

worried_jim wrote: »

Shame the idol staff would always be on strike.

Interesting point of view. What in your opinion makes workers more likely to strike if their employer is publicly owned?

ETA- do you think the staff are idle now or would they suddenly become idle on nationalisation? If the latter, why?

Cardew

worried_jim wrote: »

Shame the idol staff would always be on strike.

What has Buddha got to do with this?

worried_jim

Southend1 wrote: »

Interesting point of view. What in your opinion makes workers more likely to strike if their employer is publicly owned?

ETA- do you think the staff are idle now or would they suddenly become idle on nationalisation? If the latter, why?

Governments are scared of sacking people therefore productivity would decrease.

Southend1

worried_jim wrote: »

Governments are scared of sacking people therefore productivity would decrease.

Any evidence to support this?

worried_jim

Southend1 wrote: »

Any evidence to support this?

The day Royal Mail was privatised the work force announce a strike as they know their years of doing sod all are numbered.

Nationalisation will be the kiss of death of any industry- it's just a bearded pinko's wet dream.

Southend1

worried_jim wrote: »

The day Royal Mail was privatised the work force announce a strike as they know their years of doing sod all are numbered.

Nationalisation will be the kiss of death of any industry- it's just a bearded pinko's wet dream.

Mmm, not sure that's an evidence based or logically thought through line of argument but thanks for the comment anyway.

Interesting to note that east coast trains has been much more efficient since returning to public ownership. Also that the government are extremely keen to get the franchise back in private hands before too many people notice the improvement!

worried_jim

Southend1 wrote: »

Mmm, not sure that's an evidence based or logically thought through line of argument but thanks for the comment anyway.

Interesting to note that east coast trains has been much more efficient since returning to public ownership. Also that the government are extremely keen to get the franchise back in private hands before too many people notice the improvement!

Before they go on strike! If I were a betting man and was asked which rail company is most likely to strike I would bet my house on east coast trains simply because they are in government ownership.

If teachers weren't public servants do you honestly think they would have been on strike last week.

It is usually only public servants that strike as they know they can't be sacked for it, historically it's quite plain to see.

Road_Hog

worried_jim wrote: »

The day Royal Mail was privatised the work force announce a strike as they know their years of doing sod all are numbered.

Nationalisation will be the kiss of death of any industry- it's just a bearded pinko's wet dream.

RM is only being privatised because the EU has issued a dictat that it must be sold off. Around 10 years ago, my post turned up at about 7:20am,which I could collect shortly before I left for work. It was also reasonably price and RM made a profit, which went into the State coffers.

Post rarely arrives before Noon these days, in fact I had a delivery at 3:30pm last week. It is expensive now, very complicated and don't even talk to ebayers about how much parcels cost these days. And the State coffers aren't getting any money, plus the taxpayer is now saddled with the pension deficit. So some companies get a good profit from RM shares and the taxpayer picks up the tab for the pension and we wonder why the country is broke.

Bluebirdman_of_Alcathays

Road_Hog wrote: »

RM is only being privatised because the EU has issued a dictat that it must be sold off. Around 10 years ago, my post turned up at about 7:20am,which I could collect shortly before I left for work. It was also reasonably price and RM made a profit, which went into the State coffers.

Post rarely arrives before Noon these days, in fact I had a delivery at 3:30pm last week. It is expensive now, very complicated and don't even talk to ebayers about how much parcels cost these days. And the State coffers aren't getting any money, plus the taxpayer is now saddled with the pension deficit. So some companies get a good profit from RM shares and the taxpayer picks up the tab for the pension and we wonder why the country is broke.

With the exception of the £211m last year? I'm no shill for the state sector, but don't talk !!!!.