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What time do we have to be out of our flat?

m0t
m0t Posts: 331 Forumite
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We gave notice on our flat last month and our final rental period runs from 26th Sept to 25th Oct.

The letting agent phoned in a state of panic this morning because they had told the new tenants that they could move in on the 25th and asked if we could be out on the 24th.

I said no and they asked if we could be out by 1PM on the 25th. This cuts short the time we had allowed to clean the flat so I wondered if there was anything legal that said what time we had to leave by?
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  • donfanatico
    donfanatico Posts: 456 Forumite
    you can legally stay until the 25th on 23:59
  • DigForVictory
    DigForVictory Posts: 12,236 Forumite
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    Most legal things cut over at midnight GMT, so what you're looking at is poor communications. If they have a cleaning crew on standby, they just want you out in time to avoid "overtime", if not, they'll bill you for any "lapses" (and guess who spots the lapses?)
    Be polite, and be ready to negotiate!
  • m0t
    m0t Posts: 331 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    The letting agent had said that the new tenants will literally be coming in within an hour of us leaving, so not sure they would have the chance to clean.
  • donfanatico
    donfanatico Posts: 456 Forumite
    you could ask them to put it in writing that you will not be held responsible for any cleaning charges if you agree to leave early.
  • DominicJ_2
    DominicJ_2 Posts: 373 Forumite
    Point out to the LL that the flat is yours until 23.59 on the 25th
    That he has double let the flat is not your concern.
    You had intended to clean the flat on the afternoon of the 25th.
    Therefore, as a compromise, he accepts that the flat in acceptable condition and returns your deposit in full, and you will leave by 1pm

    At the end of the day, he's made a monumental mistake that could cost him a lot of money, easily several hundred pounds when his new tenants check in to a 5* hotel and their goods in to storage and bill him for both.

    If he has half a brain he'll be happy to negotiate.
    If he has been a very bad landlord, feel free to hold his feet over the fire.
  • Smith_007
    Smith_007 Posts: 109 Forumite
    DigForVictory wrote: »
    Be polite, and be ready to negotiate!

    I would suggest the landlord / letting agent is not in any position to negotiate :D

    As others have said, they have made a serious error (which isn't your problem) that will cost them money, together with a member of their staff getting a b*ll*cking. You are fully entitled to remain until 23:59 on the 25th. Your deposit is protected (I assume), so the landlord cannot make any unreasonable deductions.

    If you are feeling mercenary, offer to move out on the 24th for a cash payment of twice the deposit. (You give them the keys, they give you an envelope full of £50's) Spend a night together in a posh hotel.
    :beer:
    Back off man, I'm a scientist. ;)

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  • ValHaller
    ValHaller Posts: 5,212 Forumite
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    DominicJ wrote: »
    Point out to the LL that the flat is yours until 23.59 on the 25th
    That he has double let the flat is not your concern.
    You had intended to clean the flat on the afternoon of the 25th.
    Therefore, as a compromise, he accepts that the flat in acceptable condition and returns your deposit in full, and you will leave by 1pm

    At the end of the day, he's made a monumental mistake that could cost him a lot of money, easily several hundred pounds when his new tenants check in to a 5* hotel and their goods in to storage and bill him for both.

    If he has half a brain he'll be happy to negotiate.
    If he has been a very bad landlord, feel free to hold his feet over the fire.
    This ^^^. Invite the agent to complete the inventory on the 24th and give you a copy on the spot, endorsed 'cleaning charges waived'.

    Otherwise just take your time and do what you would have done.
    You might as well ask the Wizard of Oz to give you a big number as pay a Credit Referencing Agency for a so-called 'credit-score'
  • Kazzaroo
    Kazzaroo Posts: 145 Forumite
    Smith_007 wrote: »
    offer to move out on the 24th for a cash payment of twice the deposit. (You give them the keys, they give you an envelope full of £50's) Spend a night together in a posh hotel.

    Brilliant idea!
  • megsykins
    megsykins Posts: 210 Forumite
    This might sound obvious, but check your contract - ours stated somewhere in the small print that we had to have returned the keys by midday on the check out day (we were able to move in after midday too IIRC)
  • Naf
    Naf Posts: 3,183 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    megsykins wrote: »
    This might sound obvious, but check your contract - ours stated somewhere in the small print that we had to have returned the keys by midday on the check out day (we were able to move in after midday too IIRC)

    Irrelevant AFAIK; law says the property is yours for the period you paid for it; which is a full calendar month and therefore runs up until 23:59:59.
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