worse off working part time can I be sanctioned

jacques_chirac

Takodalady wrote: »

according to entitled to yes

Why are your sons not paying towards the rent now? You have declared their earnings to the local authority haven't you?

You should not be worse off. If you post your household income details we can do an accurate calculation for you.

Takodalady

paulineb wrote: »

How can you be worse off on a 5 hour contract? That amount of wages will still need to be topped up, you'll still have a live JSA claim because its going to be less than you need to live on.

If you were earning more than the 71 quid JSA a week I can understand why youd be paying more rent.

But a 5 hour contract should not affect the amount of rent your sons pay, because you arent earning over what you would be getting on JSA, the amount they would need to pay would be the same.

It is 15 hrs a week

paulineb_2

When I worked part time last year I started on 9 hours a week and until my hours went up and I signed off, I was still classed as a jobseeker. It should make no difference financially to the amount your sons pay as I said above, the DWP will top up your wages with JSA, unless you earn over 71 quid a week, which I very much doubt on a 5 hour cleaning contract.

Why does the website say you would need to pay more because you are working part time, what are the reasons given and how much is the difference that they would pay compared to you being on JSA?

Takodalady

jacques_chirac wrote: »

Why are your sons not paying towards the rent now? You have declared their earnings to the local authority haven't you?

You should not be worse off. If you post your household income details we can do an accurate calculation for you.

Of course I have declared their earnings

paulineb_2

Takodalady wrote: »

My first post should have said 15 hrs not 5 not signed off but told them I had the job,are the rules different if you have not signed off?

Ah ok. Im not sure if the rules will be different if you have not signed off. All I can advise you is to speak to the DWP before you resign.

Also, its normal for someone who works part time to be worse off than someone in work. I worked 13 hours a week last year and I paid rent, I also had travel costs, but I had to weigh up whether I wanted to sit around the house and do nothing, or go out and work.

I paid something like an extra 6 pounds a week in rent, but I was earning about 84 pounds a week in rent and if it werent for my travel costs, Id have been slightly better off.

On a 15 hour contract, the amount you or your sons would need to pay to help you with rent and council tax wont be that much at all, I assume your hourly rate will be low.

The only other thing I could suggest is try and get another part time job.

My view is, it really is better to be working than not, because if you give this job up and you get nothing else for a year or two, you might wish you had kept it.

FBaby

How long have you been unemployed? Are you qualified to do anything else?

Takodalady

FBaby wrote: »

How long have you been unemployed? Are you qualified to do anything else?

18 months and no not qualified for anything else don't know if Its because I am getting older,(56) but could not cope with the workload they expected,he did say someone had only worked one night before me so surely that says something about the job.

Takodalady

Yes am still on JS but worried they will sanction me

FBaby

Well you certainly didn't give it much of a chance.... the first day I started my new job, I went home almost in tears wondering what I had done giving up my old job. It was so intense, I went home with the worse headache. 5 weeks on...I love the job in every way. Looking back, I realise that this day just happened to be exceptional manic and although I had over full-on days, none have been like the first one.

To be fair, you might be question over your commitment to work at all. 18 months is a long time to be out of work, giving up after only one day doesn't really look good in terms of your willingness to do any work.

Takodalady

FBaby wrote: »

Well you certainly didn't give it much of a chance.... the first day I started my new job, I went home almost in tears wondering what I had done giving up my old job. It was so intense, I went home with the worse headache. 5 weeks on...I love the job in every way. Looking back, I realise that this day just happened to be exceptional manic and although I had over full-on days, none have been like the first one.

To be fair, you might be question over your commitment to work at all. 18 months is a long time to be out of work, giving up after only one day doesn't really look good in terms of your willingness to do any work.

Yes I know I did not give it much of a chance would say the same as you if it was someone else.My day was not an exception I was told this is what you do every day and as to growing to love it,I work to live not live to work and there is not much to love about cleaning.If the job made me better off financially ,I may have given it a bit longer but am not killing myself to be worse off.18 months is a long time to be out of work but I was looking for more hours with a spreadable workload like my previous job (30) hrs where I worked for 13 years until being made redundant,if I was work shy as you seem to be saying I would not have lasted two minutes.