Dodgy Used Car Salesman...

JimmyTheWig

Fluffball wrote: »

if we got the the work done ourselves, probably in the region of £200-£300 (depending on what's causing the EML to be on)...if we were to go to a garage, it would be that plus labour, so possibly double.

Fluffball wrote: »

We don't want to be back where we started - we just want this car to be roadworthy.

Then it's a bluffing game.
If the dealer has realised that you got the better of him then he won't offer to give you anything towards the repairs as he'll want you to return it.
But if not then you might have a bit of leeway to negotiate. I'd say to the dealer that it will cost £400-£600 to get fixed and would he split the difference and refund you £250?

Fluffball

OddballJamie wrote: »

Before you go, what's the air pump?

I'm not exactly sure but I think it has something to do with the exhaust. It is what is showing on the diagnostic scanner we have - there is a fuse for it, which we have replaced but that hasn't resolved it.
It's my partner who has been looking into it though, so don't know the details myself at the moment.

harveybobbles - you're a bit late to go first on that one...

colino

You really should stop messing around with that car if you want a refund. The trader has made a straight offer to you and if you hang on to it and keep tinkering he will be fully justified in politely telling you to go away.
By your comments the car is far superior to the one you have just traded in so do you really think a compromise deal is going to exceed £10?

fivetide

Toyota owners club says:

- lowers the emissions when the car is cold
- common fault
- dealer only part and £600

However, resetting the light is easy. Driving round with it not working isn't an issue as it only works when the car is cold. Also, clear the lights, get it hot for an MOT and it will pass.

So basically you can live with it. Seems like a lot of people punt them on if this problem comes up. someone has done the same thing to the dealer with this car as you did with yours

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/100060-corolla-t-sport-exhaust-air-pump/

Fluffball

colino wrote: »

You really should stop messing around with that car if you want a refund. The trader has made a straight offer to you and if you hang on to it and keep tinkering he will be fully justified in politely telling you to go away.
By your comments the car is far superior to the one you have just traded in so do you really think a compromise deal is going to exceed £10?

We don't want a refund. And if you don't ask, you don't get!

Thanks again for all the replies, I'm outta here to get some other stuff done with my day!

OddballJamie

Fivetide I was just reading the same thing on it, looks like it can also be by-passed.
http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/106146-air-pump-air-injection-system/?p=1073745

Personally I'd take the trader up on the offer as this new car sounds more trouble than it's worth.

There's loads of £1500 cars about that don't need several hundred spent to get them roadworthy. You say you like Toyotas because they are built to last, I'd disagree in this case.

alleycat`

This just reads as:

"I had a car that was about to have something expensive happen so i passed it on to some other bloke.
In return he's sold me another car, which is also going to need something expensive replacing. I am now hopping mad."

If you aren't happy take the £300, have the other car back and try your luck with someone else.

Most one man bands would tell you to jog on (rightly or wrongly) and if you try touch them in court they'll vanish in a puff of smoke to re-appear down the road as someone else.

There is almost no chance the "dealer" is going to go into a "to me, to you" with regards to giving you some money as he has no legal obligation to do so.

yazgee

One BIG reason why you should be wary of these 'Private Dealers' they are just traders who buy cars from auctions, tidy them up and flog them. Very few genuine ones out there.

My advice get your refund and your car back, go to a reputable main/established dealer and buy a newer car. you may have to spend a bit more but it's worth it for the peace of mind.

gycraig_2

so you ripped him off by selling him a car that you knew had a big problem that could be hidden,

and you are now irate that your new car isnt "exactly as described" karama of the highest order

atrixblue.-MFR-.

gycraig wrote: »

so you ripped him off by selling him a car that you knew had a big problem that could be hidden,

and you are now irate that your new car isnt "exactly as described" karama of the highest order

traders taking part ex cars have their own obligation to fully inspect the vehicle BEFORE any transaction take place so if he got a part ex lemon its his own fault for not fully testing and checking it.

traders are far too aware that part ex cars coming in have faults that why people trade them 95% of the time so is expected.

the trader has no obligation to repair this car for the OP, he may have already spent his budget previously on the vehicle to pass MOT and repairing it now will net him a loss over it, so it would make business sense to have it back rather than pay out £300 more ontop of his budget to get it to the OP's standards.