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Legality of forestry commission "fines"

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  • Tigsteroonie
    Tigsteroonie Posts: 24,954 Forumite
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    dannny wrote: »
    Rest of scotland definately in force.

    http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=67089

    Thanks for response & link. I am now going to waste at least an hour satisfying my curiosity as to where they've applied charges outside of Cowal & Trossachs (which doesn't surprise me).
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  • Iceweasel
    Iceweasel Posts: 4,891 Forumite
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    Mrs Iceweasel and I are avid birdwatchers and could easily stop by 4 or 5 FC car parks in a typical day out.

    That would mean paying more in parking charges than fuel for us.

    An annual ticket doesn't seem to cover the whole country - only a particular region.

    There are certainly plenty places where they charge near us.

    http://www.forestry.gov.uk/website/forestry.nsf/byunique/infd-8snend
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    edited 14 October 2013 at 10:21PM
    Umkomaas wrote: »
    From their website:

    Spot the error time. Own goal!

    And what does all this BS mean?
    Its isn't actually BS and there was no "deliberate mistake" there either. It means that ICES principal business is the provision of back-office services to councils operating decriminalised parking enforcement (DPE) i.e. legally (generally) issued Penalty Charge Notices. As their text states they process the paperwork and pursue matters right the way through to TEC on behalf of their council clients. What they don't state there - probably because it is a very small part of their business - is that they deal with Parking Charge Notices as well.

    ICES have been around for a long time and their business has been based firmly in DPE in much the same way as Car Parking Partnership aka Liberty Services back-office service is for PPC's.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • Umkomaas
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    HO87 wrote: »
    Its isn't actually BS and there was no "deliberate mistake" there either. It means that ICES principal business is the provision of back-office services to councils operating decriminalised parking enforcement (DPE) i.e. legally (generally) issued Penalty Charge Notices. As their text states they process the paperwork and pursue matters right the way through to TEC on behalf of their council clients. What they don't state there - probably because it is a very small part of their business - is that they deal with Parking Charge Notices as well.

    ICES have been around for a long time and their business has been based firmly in DPE in much the same way as Car Parking Partnership aka Liberty Services back-office service is for PPC's.

    My error entirely (OP - I've deleted my post to avoid any misunderstanding/confusion) I was reading the website extract purely in the context of Private Parking Charge Notices.

    Thanks Simon! :rotfl:
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    Umkomaas wrote: »
    My error entirely (OP - I've deleted my post to avoid any misunderstanding/confusion) I was reading the website extract purely in the context of Private Parking Charge Notices.

    Thanks Simon! :rotfl:
    Gee... shucks. 'Twas Karen's fault really. She made me come in from the stables to read it whilst she spoke to the yacht brokers about our mooring fees. :D
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,044 Forumite
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    HO87 wrote: »
    Gee... shucks. 'Twas Karen's fault really. She made me come in from the stables to read it whilst she spoke to the yacht brokers about our mooring fees. :D

    Small beer compared with the take-off and landing charges I hear you're going to be stumping up soon. :)
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • dannny_2
    dannny_2 Posts: 169 Forumite
    www.picturehost.eu/uploads/8cc026f6fa6fad49ba41f4a3f75fe2a5_DSCF1120.JPG

    its parking eye.
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,620 Forumite
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    parking eye+forestry commision? worth an foi request to publish the contact?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • jeanraffio
    jeanraffio Posts: 176 Forumite
    Isn't the fact that it's in Scotland the most relevant thing here? Unenforceable? Ignore is the advice?
    This is my *anonymous* account on MSE Forums - I post under a different username normally.
  • st999
    st999 Posts: 1,574 Forumite
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    Could they not have used a Scottish based company to enforce the parking regulations?
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