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Help to buy? Yes please, say bankers!

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  • Jim_B_3
    Jim_B_3 Posts: 404 Forumite
    Whilst I am but one data point, I currently rent. I pay for the rent from investment income; if I took those investments and used them to buy a house, I'd have to take out a mortgage to cover the difference, and then I'd be paying out of pocket for somewhere to live. As such, I'm one of life's renters.

    This, however, is a game changer. I am seriously considering buying a house with 5% down and letting Johnny Taxpayer (which is me, but everyone else as well) put in 20%; I have no intention of owning it for very long and this would be pure speculation, letting the taxpayer front me cash to play on the housing market. I reckon that if I let it ride for a couple of years and then cashed in, I'd make a nice profit.

    I'm one person with some money, but not lots. If I'm thinking it's worth me doing on my small scale, I've no doubt some big players are standing by to make a fortune out of the government's latest attempt to start a new bubble.
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    Jim_B wrote: »
    Whilst I am but one data point, I currently rent. I pay for the rent from investment income; if I took those investments and used them to buy a house, I'd have to take out a mortgage to cover the difference, and then I'd be paying out of pocket for somewhere to live. As such, I'm one of life's renters.

    This, however, is a game changer. I am seriously considering buying a house with 5% down and letting Johnny Taxpayer (which is me, but everyone else as well) put in 20%; I have no intention of owning it for very long and this would be pure speculation, letting the taxpayer front me cash to play on the housing market. I reckon that if I let it ride for a couple of years and then cashed in, I'd make a nice profit.

    I'm one person with some money, but not lots. If I'm thinking it's worth me doing on my small scale, I've no doubt some big players are standing by to make a fortune out of the government's latest attempt to start a new bubble.

    Another provocative post lol! Which goes straight back to GD's original point...

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    I'm not yet convinced that the financial institutions have anything to fear from financial carnage. As things stand, I suspect they would still be eligible for a taxpayer bailout. Hence GD's original thread title.

    TruckerT
    There is more upside to Help to Buy than downside however many times people want to twist it or spin it.
  • Jim_B_3
    Jim_B_3 Posts: 404 Forumite
    There is more upside to Help to Buy than downside however many times people want to twist it or spin it.

    Won't it make houses more expensive? Isn't that a bad thing?
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    There is more upside to Help to Buy than downside however many times people want to twist it or spin it.

    It's another experiment - the results remain to be seen...

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Jim_B wrote: »
    Won't it make houses more expensive? Isn't that a bad thing?
    Maybe, but as I said... More people are able to buy property when house prices are rising than when they are falling/lower...
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    chucky wrote: »
    Maybe, but as I said... More people are able to buy property when house prices are rising than when they are falling/lower...

    ...but as I said - last time, it ended in tears...

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • Jim_B wrote: »
    Won't it make houses more expensive?

    In terms of the sticker price of the house, yes.

    However it's also lowering mortgage rates and reducing the amount of time many people have to rent, so in terms of lifetime housing costs, probably not.
    Isn't that a bad thing?

    No.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • TruckerT
    TruckerT Posts: 1,714 Forumite
    In terms of the sticker price of the house, yes.

    However it's also lowering mortgage rates and reducing the amount of time many people have to rent, so in terms of lifetime housing costs, probably not.



    No.

    So far as I know, interest rates look like being higher on Help to Buy deals. Probably because the whole idea looks pretty dodgy.

    TruckerT
    According to Clapton, I am a totally ignorant idiot.
  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    TruckerT wrote: »
    ...but as I said - last time, it ended in tears...

    TruckerT
    The last time?!?! Isn't it the first time Help to Buy has been introduced?
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