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NtK received after ignoring PCN - advice please?

Company - UKPC
Ticket Date - 16/08/13
Windscreen ticket
NtK Date - 02/10/13
Location: England
Reason: Parked somewhere the car shouldn't be

Any suggestions on what to put in the soft appeal?
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  • martmonk
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    I notice that you are located in Newcastle and that this is UKPC - it's not Silverlink by any chance is it?

    plenty of advice on appeal content on the forum. Write in the third person not revealing who the driver was.

    what you are after is a POPLA code as they will likely refuse any appeal.

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,392 Forumite
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    Here are a thread where the person used a strong appeal and got the ticket cancelled without even having to bother with POPLA (wasn't UKPC though):

    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=79697&st=0

    or just go for an appeal saying that the driver saw no clear signs and so no contract was established that could possibly warrant a charge of this amount. And in any case that is clearly a penalty, a revenue-raising exercise (not a pre-estimate of any loss) as they confirm on their own website which you will happily draw to POPLA's attention at UKPC's expense:

    http://ukparkingcontrol.com/faq.html


    FAQS:
    How much would it cost us to use your parking management services?
    Nothing at all! We provide parking management services to our clients free of charge (subject to site survey).


    So how do you earn your money?

    Our revenue is generated from the parking charges issued. In many instances we are also able to provide a client revenue rebate of 10%.


    :D:D
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  • geordie_ben
    geordie_ben Posts: 3,118 Forumite
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    Thanks for the replies, weirdly I didn't get an email saying there was replies - daft forum

    Hmm, can't go down the signage route as was parked in a disabled bay

    And no, not Silverlink, other side of the water ;)

    I'll go with a soft, but true appeal, and add on the bit about them trying to get money for nothing :)
  • geordie_ben
    geordie_ben Posts: 3,118 Forumite
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    Ok, I've got my letter stating my appeal had been refused

    What's the next step? Need anymore details?
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,729 Forumite
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    Ok, I've got my letter stating my appeal had been refused

    What's the next step? Need anymore details?

    Have they given you a POPLA code for the next stage of the appeals' process?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • geordie_ben
    geordie_ben Posts: 3,118 Forumite
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    Is that the 10 digit verification code?
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,729 Forumite
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    Is that the 10 digit verification code?

    Yep, that's the one.

    Time to get underway with the first draft of your POPLA appeal, post it up here when it's finished and we'll help you to fine tune it.

    Have a look at these threads (most recent posts - say past couple of months) to show you how to draft a winning appeal and how the Assessors deal with those appeal points.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4488337

    http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=17

    Key appeal points are:

    1. Genuine Pre-Estimate of Losses
    2. Proprietary interest in the land
    3. Contract with the landowner to pursue charges up to court level
    4. Signage
    5. Confirmation that the PPC pays local Business Rates for the car park you are being charged

    See how you get on. Remember the clock is ticking - you have 28 days from the date of your rejection letter, no extension, no second chance. Don't miss the golden opportunity to kick your PCN permanently into touch.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,392 Forumite
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    Is that the 10 digit verification code?

    How to win at POPLA:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/62180281#Comment_62180281

    :)
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  • geordie_ben
    geordie_ben Posts: 3,118 Forumite
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    I've only just remembered about this, it's gone over the 28 days.

    Is it too late to appeal to popla?
  • Redx
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    edited 30 November 2013 at 1:37PM
    I've only just remembered about this, it's gone over the 28 days.

    Is it too late to appeal to popla?

    yes it is

    earlier threads clearly told you what to do about this

    including the words in post #08 on 15/10/2013
    Time to get underway with the first draft of your POPLA appeal, post it up here when it's finished and we'll help you to fine tune it.

    Have a look at these threads (most recent posts - say past couple of months) to show you how to draft a winning appeal and how the Assessors deal with those appeal points

    An expensive mistake to make !!

    especially when you could have easily won your case and it would have cost nothing

    I suppose if its a different driver you could name them, but you cannot blame anyone but yourself for not getting on with it when the details were all here
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