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Advice on troublesome ebay transaction

Problem No 1

I bought a clock from an australian seller that was described as having a 999 day countdown function - perfect for a guy at work who's retiring in a couple of years.

The clock arrived and it was missing the day countdown feature. Email correspondence with the seller revealed that the manufacturer of the clock had changed the specs of the clock and removed the day countdown feature.

Seller offered me a partial refund if I kept it but is refusing to pay the return postage. Should I be expected to have to pay the return postage when it was the seller's (admitted) mistake?

Problem No 2

Cost including postage was 69 aus dollars. I seem to have paid by visa/paypal £69 - a substantial difference.

I made the seller aware but the seller stated he will only refund the difference if I accept the above clock and dont raise a dispute.


I'd be grateful for your comments, opinions and advice.

Thanks
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  • Cute_'n'_Quirky
    Cute_'n'_Quirky Posts: 2,082 Forumite
    Even if you open a dispute and you win and are required to return the item you will not get the postage refunded - neither the postage you paid from Oz to the UK or the return.

    You have paid about £3.50 too much postage - you agreed to this - however, the extra could be for packaging.
  • steveo3002
    steveo3002 Posts: 2,731 Forumite
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    you must have clicked the £ option and not the aus$ when paying
  • digerati
    digerati Posts: 533 Forumite
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    Easiest solution would be to return the item to seller so you get a full refund.

    You will have to send by traceable shipper (just like the seller sent to you).

    Alternately you could threaten to open a dispute with PayPal for item not received if seller neglected to send it originally by traceable means. Then when you have a full refund, return the clock by surface mail at seller's risk.
    "Money is truthful. If a person speaks of their honour, make sure they pay in cash."
  • martindow
    martindow Posts: 10,402 Forumite
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    Could a dispute not be opened for Item not as described? With international transactions the costs of sending things back can be prohibitive. You need to keep negotiating with the seller to try to come to some agreement and then resell on ebay here maybe?
  • Don't know what Cute 'n' Quirky means about postage... anyway

    If the guy refuses to refund you the difference, then agree not to raise a dispute and keep the clock. You have overspent by a huge margin. Get the money back and then neg him (he deserves it for threatening to keep your money - you paid twice was it was worth).
  • Cute_'n'_Quirky
    Cute_'n'_Quirky Posts: 2,082 Forumite
    Postage - you pay £10 + £5 p&p. You will a paypal dispute. You return the item. You only get £10 refund.

    Understand?
  • soolin
    soolin Posts: 73,074 Ambassador
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    Postage - you pay £10 + £5 p&p. You will a paypal dispute. You return the item. You only get £10 refund.

    Understand?

    I think you are mistaking an ebay and a paypal claim. The old ebay claim system (no longer available) which was aimed at buyers who did not use paypal only recovered the item cost less £15 and NOT any p and P paid. Howevr a paypal claim recovers the full amount originally paid including post and packing.

    The only thing not covered by a paypal claim would be the return postage.
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  • Blacksheep1979
    Blacksheep1979 Posts: 4,224 Forumite
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    Personally I'd be thinking about sidestepping the whole ebay/paypal issue and going straight to the credit card company to get a chargeback - then ttelling the seller if they want it back they have to pay for/arrange the return.
  • soolin
    soolin Posts: 73,074 Ambassador
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    Personally I'd be thinking about sidestepping the whole ebay/paypal issue and going straight to the credit card company to get a chargeback - then ttelling the seller if they want it back they have to pay for/arrange the return.

    A credit card company rarely get involved in issues of 'not as described', they really only deal in items paid for and not received.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
  • FloFlo
    FloFlo Posts: 32,720 Forumite
    Was it sent to via a trackable method?
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