Planning permission.

dori2o

My mum and dad have just had a large shed built in the back garden to keep my dad's and my brothers plumbing supplies in. The shed is 14ft x 8 ft.

Next door neighbour does not seem too happy about this, and has been dropping hints that she does not like the look of it, and it's ugly. (it's a shed, what do you want it to look like)

They are planning to build an 8ft wall built to hide the shed from the view from their kitchen window.

There are 2 questions here- can they force my mum and dad to pay half to the wall if they don't want it in the first place?

2)- will they need planning permission. as a) it's brick so not a temporary structure, and b) it's in excess of 6'6" hight restriction?


(By brick I mean brick built pillars with fence panel slotted in)

seven-day-weekend

If the fence/wall is above 2m in height (their side, including any brickwork at the bottom, or any trellis at the top) i.e. the total height from the ground, they will need planning permission. It doesn't matter what materiasls it is made from, it's the height that counts.

Hope this helps.

ormus

and they cannot force them to pay half either!

weve been lucky with both our last 2 homes/neighbours, twice now we have split the cost of new fencing. a very agreeable agreement to both parties.

sloughflint

Before you go down that road..... Did your Mum and Dad get planning permission themselves? If they've used up their volume allowance, they should have done. Could neighbours get awkward back?
In any event,your folks definitely are under no obligation to contribute to the cost of the wall.

HugoSP

I would discuss contributing to the cost of a 2 metre fence. This would be the cheapest option. If the neigbour wants to build a wall then I think they would be within their rights to insist that it is only 2 metres high and they sub half the cost of a timber fence equivilent.

seven-day-weekend

sloughflint wrote: »

Before you go down that road..... Did your Mum and Dad get planning permission themselves? If they've used up their volume allowance, they should have done. Could neighbours get awkward back?
In any event,your folks definitely are under no obligation to contribute to the cost of the wall.

You don't normally need planning permission for an outbuilding providing it is well away from the house and within height limits.

sloughflint

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

You don't normally need planning permission for an outbuilding providing it is well away from the house and within height limits.

We did. I can't remember what the volume allowance is off the top of my head but if it has been exceeded, this overules what you quoted and the outbuilding is classed as an extension and requires PP.

seven-day-weekend

sloughflint wrote: »

We did. I can't remember what the volume allowance is off the top of my head but if it has been exceeded, this overules what you quoted and the outbuilding is classed as an extension and requires PP.

That is correct - if the building is closeto the house or more than half the garden is covered then you may need planning permission as it comes under the extensions rules and not outbuildings.

I did say you don't NORMALLY need it.;)

rygon

So they are building a 6'6'' fence to hide the shed from view...erm how ugly is this shed lol.
One thing to think about if they are building this fence is how much sunlight is going to be blocked out from your garden

ifti

quick question is the wall/fence they are planning to build on the right or left of your house. ive heard one side always yours. meaning no one can touch it except you and you should look after it. im pretty sure its the right, can anyone confirm this ?

paddy's_mum

The danger here is two fold. The neighbours can almost certainly involve the council since the shed is being used as a store for commercial supplies = possibly business rates, probably planning permission etc.

The second danger is that if they are unhappy enough, you may find yourselves involved in a neighbour war - avoid that at all costs. It is a sure-fire route to grief, misery and expense. Why not offer to paint the shed a neutral, toning-in colour and as said earlier, go halves on the fence. A few pretty climbers on the shed ...

Unless there are or have been other grave issues with this particular neighbour, I cannot urge you strongly enough to adopt a softlysoftly approach. Go to the gardenlaw website if you want a taste of just how hateful and destructive such relatively minor disagreements can become. Good luck with sorting it all out to everyone's satisfaction.