MSE News: Buy-to-let borrowers hit by West Brom mortgage hike

dturner451

Lewis_Ranieri wrote: »

Mike, I think you mean lose?


I am not interested in Conspiracy Theories.


Power of Attorney is not some form of pseudo law or theory, it's in Black and White in WB docs.

Where exactly is it in those documents ?

Lewis_Ranieri

http://downloads.umu.nu/Books/TomSchauf-TopSecretBanker'sManual(2003)_ocr_v.1.pdf

Secret Bankers Manual - Not so secret anymore



This manual is not designed to give legal advice. This manual is only to
give people historical information as to what Thomas Schauf has learned
that has worked and not worked in court. Tom has learned that strategies
in court can change every 30 to 90 days. If you are using old information,
Y O U W I L L L O S E IN COURT. Before this manual was printed,
strategies changed every 3 to 6 months. The old strategies failed in court.
You have to presume that bankers and judges have read this manual and
are waiting for you. On a regular occurrence people have called Tom
and said, I want to order your books, my neighbor got your books and
the banks agreed to cancel their debt. I want to do what my neighbor did.
Tom usually warns people and tells them that just because your neighbor
got out of their loan does not mean that you will get out of your loan.
While they may understand court rules, you may not, setting you up for
a failed court case. IN NO C A S E S H O U L D Y O U E N T E R INTO A
C L A S S A C T I O N C O U R T C A S E . You cannot win f i g h t i n g the banking
system. If you win in court, it must be an individual lawsuit claiming
that the bank did not perform, the bank breached the agreement and concealed
material facts. The bankers fail when they cannot answer Tom's
court admissions (statements that the bank must admit or deny). One
person won three court cases in a row and lost the fourth court case. The
bank bribed the judge and placed $150,000 cash in the judge's personal
banking account. The judge might call it a political contribution but it is
used to influence the judge like a bribe. Tom Schauf was watching the
local news on TV. The TV explained how the local foreclosure judge
amassed an $8 million real estate fortune in 3 to 4 years by working with
the bankers in buying foreclosed homes. How can a judge go from no
net worth to $8 million of net worth in 3-4 years without the bankers
helping? The judge helps the bankers in court and the bankers make sure
that the judge gets the best foreclosure victims with the most equity. One
hand washes the other. It is a l l about profits. Going to court is risky. You
are playing in their sandbox and they make the rules up as they play the
money game.

antrobus

Lewis_Ranieri wrote: »

http://downloads.umu.nu/Books/TomSchauf-TopSecretBanker'sManual(2003)_ocr_v.1.pdf

Secret Bankers Manual - Not so secret anymore
....

Oh not Tom Schauf! Not Tom-"I know God called me to get the banking message out to the nation"- Schauf. You're not trying to tell us all that you take any of that seriously? You've got to be kidding. That man is crazier than a box of frogs on acid.

This is getting ridiculous now. What will it be next? The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? :rotfl:

antrobus

Lewis_Ranieri wrote: »

.... The TV explained how the local foreclosure judge amassed an $8 million real estate fortune in 3 to 4 years by working with the bankers in buying foreclosed homes. How can a judge go from no net worth to $8 million of net worth in 3-4 years without the bankers helping? The judge helps the bankers in court and the bankers make sure that the judge gets the best foreclosure victims with the most equity. .....

And of course, that's not a conspiracy theory.:)

BeetrootMike

Lewis_Ranieri wrote: »

http://downloads.umu.nu/Books/TomSchauf-TopSecretBanker'sManual(2003)_ocr_v.1.pdf

Secret Bankers Manual - Not so secret anymore

Ahhh ,thank you Stephen, that answers all my questions in a perfectly clear and straightforward manner. The "Message to Bankers, Politicians and Law Enforcement" is particularly convincing!

I just wonder why the download appears to be from the island state of Niue? I hope it's not because the rest of the world is out to get Tom?

That would be one big conspiracy and we already established that we don't believe in those, now haven't we? Or is it just conspiracy theories that we don't believe in whereas conspiracies themselves are perfectly allowable?

I think further guidance is needed on this Stephen, please help! Maybe another link or download??

BeetrootMike

BeetrootMike wrote: »

I think further guidance is needed on this Stephen, please help! Maybe another link or download??

But maybe this time not from a site that's all about conspiracies, because you're not interested in those now are you Stephen?

Lewis_Ranieri

All this talk about Banks and Lenders raising interest payments on Loans that never existed to start with does make for Hollywood playwright material.

Banks loan nothing but pens to sign notes, do you think they would risk all they have stolen ? While the below pathology, does manage to capture the finer points of how the scam works in general, it is only a brief look into this dark world of fraud and illusion.

I marvel at how clever these bankers are, and how they turn every person who does business with them, into accomplices and mules. Modern banking is the most successful criminal enterprise ever organized and deployed ─ the ultimate shell game on a world class level, making all other crimes notwithstanding , pale in comparison; causing great addiction to its wares, with not one in a million ever feeling the needles first pierce.

The below word, expropriate, is key in understanding what the banks main function is. Banking is merely another necessary component of Marxist ideals and rule, whereby the property of the many are brought under direct control of their masters, in this case, the banks.

expropriate:\ek-SPROH-pree-ayt\, transitive verb:
1. To deprive of possession.
2. To transfer (the property of another) to oneself.


"Government spending is always a “tax” burden on the British people and is never equally or fairly distributed. The poor and low-middle income workers always suffer the most from the deceitful tax of inflation and borrowing."

"You are a den of vipers! I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning." ~ President Andrew Jackson (1829-1837)

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." ~ Thomas Jefferson (1816)

Have you been cheated?

In order for any contract to be valid, there must be 'full disclosure', 'good faith', 'valuable consideration', and 'clean hands'. Here is what the banks advertise: "Come to our bank. We have money to loan you". Is this really what happens?

Did you really receive a Loan when you contracted to borrow money from the bank to pay for your home? Or was it just an exchange (your note for cash), but the bank called it a loan? Or did two loans occur?

When you entered into a loan contract with a bank, you signed a note or contract promising to pay the loan back, and you agreed that the bank could seize your property if you did not repay the loan. This contract supposedly qualified you to receive the bank's money. But did the bank provide 'full disclosure' of all of the terms of this agreement? Read the following and decide for yourself if the bank was acting in 'good faith', that you received 'valuable consideration', and that your 'signature' on that agreement, is valid.

Bankers want you to believe that: depositors deposit money at banks, then banks lend the depositor's money to borrowers and then the borrowers repay the money. Finally, the money is returned to the depositors who funded the loan. If you think this is how UK banking works, you have been deceived.

The fact is the economics of today's banking system is similar to stealing, counterfeiting, and swindling, which is why the bankers will not explain the loan details or answer specific questions. Bankers are terrified that the details might be exposed in public court.

The bank's own publications admit and the bank's bookkeeping entries prove, that when the banks lend money, the bankers create new money with the economics similar to counterfeiting.

If a counterfeiter counterfeits money and lends it to you, do you have any moral or legal obligation to repay the loan? NO, The law says counterfeiting is illegal and that you do not have to repay the counterfeiter.

James Madison: "History records that the money-changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance."

Bankers are too smart to counterfeit cash and go to jail. They are money masters and use another method to create new money with the economics similar to counterfeiting without going to jail. The secret involves two kinds of money. Legal tender cash-money and non- legal tender-money, like checks and credit cards. The bank's own publication claims that money does not have to be issued by the government or be in any special form. According to the bank's manual, money is anything that can be sold for cash and that the banks accept as money.

The loan agreement you sign is sold to investors wanting interest. If you do not pay the interest, they foreclose and collect the money. The loan agreement can be sold for cash and the bankers use the loan like non-legal tender money. If you exchange £100 of cash for a $100 check, the bankers acted like a moneychanger and lent you none of the bank's money. If the bank uses your £100,000 loan agreement like money to fund a check like cash funds a check, the banker acted like a moneychanger without the bank using or risking one cent of their money to purchase your loan agreement.

The banker got your loan agreement for free, which has the economics similar to stealing. The banker created £100,000 of new money, which has the economics similar to counterfeiting. Would you agree to have the banker steal your £100,000 loan agreement and use it to create $100,000 of new money and then return the value of the stolen property to you as a loan? Did you agree to be swindled?

The banker knows you would never knowingly be this stupid and that is why he cannot disclose the whole truth in court. The bookkeeping entries prove that the borrower's Loan Agreement funded the loan to the borrower. The bookkeeping entries prove that the banker merely acted like a moneychanger exchanging one kind of currency for another kind of currency and charging you as if there were a loan. If you funded the loan to yourself, why are you paying the banker back the principle and interest?

Bankers understand the difference between money and wealth. Money buys things. If you could counterfeit money, you could buy the whole world and control Parliament. Wealth is anything that you can sell. You can sell real estate, cars, gold, silver, and people sell their 40 hours a week for a pay cheque. Yes, labour produces wealth. Labour produces petrol for your car, food to eat, and homes, cars, and roads. The banker knows that if everyone stopped working, stayed home, and counterfeited money, everyone would starve to death, and no one would have gas for their cars or food to eat. When bankers create new money and lend it to you, you must work for the banker for free to repay the loan or he forecloses and gets your home for free.

The money-creator gets more of your wealth for free with a suit and tie, than a gunman does pointing a gun at your head.

The banker says, "repay the loan because the bank lent you money". We simply ask one question: "Should the one who funded the loan, be repaid the money?" Whether they answer YES or NO, the bank must forgive the loan and zero out the debt. That is the one question that they do not want to answer, because the borrower funded the loan, as proven by the bank's own bookkeeping entries.

"It is well enough that the people of this nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

This secret banking policy allows bankers to create economic booms and busts, makes the stock market fluctuate as they increase and decrease the money supply. You lose in investments as those who understand this secret, transfer your investment money into their pocket. You lose, they win.


Wakey wakey.

Lewis_Ranieri

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zqzHMWVMKw&feature=youtu.be


If you want to find out what the Banks are up to behind the scenes hand in hand with Land Registry - Simon Spaniard - Land Registry Episode 1 - by White Rabbit You Tube.


Far from conspiracy.


Those seeking to cover up Hoover 118 intentions will want your knowledge supressed as to what the Banks are up to behind the scenes. Get hold of the Documents as per this video from Land Registry and you will soon discover the Truth. A certain man claims to be a founding member of the NACFB - wow - wouldn't he like you not to be asking for this information!


If you want to knock out WB, messing around with contract law will divert you as far away from the truth as Hoover118 sucks, and that's pretty far!


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Lewis_Ranieri

Fraud on Council, waste disposal, £1m.
Rumanian people trafficking
Brothel keeping/escort agency where one escort was a moonlighting police woman.
Conspiracy to rob CIT vehicles
Murder by beating, gang related (led)
Murder by strangulation, relationship (led)
cash for crash' staged accident fraud (2 such cases)
Murder by torture/beating/drowning (led)
Conspiracy to smuggle cigarettes/money laundering (VHCC)
Murder by strangulation of children 4 and 2 (led)
Murder by beating (led)
Murder by shooting, gang related, acting for armourer.
a number of historic sex cases, adult rapes, drug conspiracies etc etc
Brothel keeper/money laundering
2 large drug conspiracies
Child sex abuse, 4 complainants, SEN mother
Money laundering of Afghan drug dealers
Multiple rape/false imp of Iranian wife
Murder by stabbing (led)
People trafficking (Africa-UK-Europe)
Attempted murder in prison, client already on 2 life sentences for murder
Death of Child by neglect (force feeding)
Facilitation of illegal immigration.
Insurance fraud by faked death.
VAT carousel fraud
VAT missing trader fraud
East European car ringing fraud


Well I suppose experience in all the above will put a certain Barrister at "Law" in good company dealing with his first Banking Case. Vast knowledge of Negotiable Instruments I must say though.

pelirocco

Lewis_Ranieri wrote: »

All this talk about Banks and Lenders raising interest payments on Loans that never existed to start with does make for Hollywood playwright material.

Banks loan nothing but pens to sign notes, do you think they would risk all they have stolen ? While the below pathology, does manage to capture the finer points of how the scam works in general, it is only a brief look into this dark world of fraud and illusion.

I marvel at how clever these bankers are, and how they turn every person who does business with them, into accomplices and mules. Modern banking is the most successful criminal enterprise ever organized and deployed ─ the ultimate shell game on a world class level, making all other crimes notwithstanding , pale in comparison; causing great addiction to its wares, with not one in a million ever feeling the needles first pierce.

The below word, expropriate, is key in understanding what the banks main function is. Banking is merely another necessary component of Marxist ideals and rule, whereby the property of the many are brought under direct control of their masters, in this case, the banks.

expropriate:\ek-SPROH-pree-ayt\, transitive verb:
1. To deprive of possession.
2. To transfer (the property of another) to oneself.


"Government spending is always a “tax” burden on the British people and is never equally or fairly distributed. The poor and low-middle income workers always suffer the most from the deceitful tax of inflation and borrowing."

"You are a den of vipers! I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning." ~ President Andrew Jackson (1829-1837)

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." ~ Thomas Jefferson (1816)

Have you been cheated?

In order for any contract to be valid, there must be 'full disclosure', 'good faith', 'valuable consideration', and 'clean hands'. Here is what the banks advertise: "Come to our bank. We have money to loan you". Is this really what happens?

Did you really receive a Loan when you contracted to borrow money from the bank to pay for your home? Or was it just an exchange (your note for cash), but the bank called it a loan? Or did two loans occur?

When you entered into a loan contract with a bank, you signed a note or contract promising to pay the loan back, and you agreed that the bank could seize your property if you did not repay the loan. This contract supposedly qualified you to receive the bank's money. But did the bank provide 'full disclosure' of all of the terms of this agreement? Read the following and decide for yourself if the bank was acting in 'good faith', that you received 'valuable consideration', and that your 'signature' on that agreement, is valid.

Bankers want you to believe that: depositors deposit money at banks, then banks lend the depositor's money to borrowers and then the borrowers repay the money. Finally, the money is returned to the depositors who funded the loan. If you think this is how UK banking works, you have been deceived.

The fact is the economics of today's banking system is similar to stealing, counterfeiting, and swindling, which is why the bankers will not explain the loan details or answer specific questions. Bankers are terrified that the details might be exposed in public court.

The bank's own publications admit and the bank's bookkeeping entries prove, that when the banks lend money, the bankers create new money with the economics similar to counterfeiting.

If a counterfeiter counterfeits money and lends it to you, do you have any moral or legal obligation to repay the loan? NO, The law says counterfeiting is illegal and that you do not have to repay the counterfeiter.

James Madison: "History records that the money-changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance."

Bankers are too smart to counterfeit cash and go to jail. They are money masters and use another method to create new money with the economics similar to counterfeiting without going to jail. The secret involves two kinds of money. Legal tender cash-money and non- legal tender-money, like checks and credit cards. The bank's own publication claims that money does not have to be issued by the government or be in any special form. According to the bank's manual, money is anything that can be sold for cash and that the banks accept as money.

The loan agreement you sign is sold to investors wanting interest. If you do not pay the interest, they foreclose and collect the money. The loan agreement can be sold for cash and the bankers use the loan like non-legal tender money. If you exchange £100 of cash for a $100 check, the bankers acted like a moneychanger and lent you none of the bank's money. If the bank uses your £100,000 loan agreement like money to fund a check like cash funds a check, the banker acted like a moneychanger without the bank using or risking one cent of their money to purchase your loan agreement.

The banker got your loan agreement for free, which has the economics similar to stealing. The banker created £100,000 of new money, which has the economics similar to counterfeiting. Would you agree to have the banker steal your £100,000 loan agreement and use it to create $100,000 of new money and then return the value of the stolen property to you as a loan? Did you agree to be swindled?

The banker knows you would never knowingly be this stupid and that is why he cannot disclose the whole truth in court. The bookkeeping entries prove that the borrower's Loan Agreement funded the loan to the borrower. The bookkeeping entries prove that the banker merely acted like a moneychanger exchanging one kind of currency for another kind of currency and charging you as if there were a loan. If you funded the loan to yourself, why are you paying the banker back the principle and interest?

Bankers understand the difference between money and wealth. Money buys things. If you could counterfeit money, you could buy the whole world and control Parliament. Wealth is anything that you can sell. You can sell real estate, cars, gold, silver, and people sell their 40 hours a week for a pay cheque. Yes, labour produces wealth. Labour produces petrol for your car, food to eat, and homes, cars, and roads. The banker knows that if everyone stopped working, stayed home, and counterfeited money, everyone would starve to death, and no one would have gas for their cars or food to eat. When bankers create new money and lend it to you, you must work for the banker for free to repay the loan or he forecloses and gets your home for free.

The money-creator gets more of your wealth for free with a suit and tie, than a gunman does pointing a gun at your head.

The banker says, "repay the loan because the bank lent you money". We simply ask one question: "Should the one who funded the loan, be repaid the money?" Whether they answer YES or NO, the bank must forgive the loan and zero out the debt. That is the one question that they do not want to answer, because the borrower funded the loan, as proven by the bank's own bookkeeping entries.

"It is well enough that the people of this nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

This secret banking policy allows bankers to create economic booms and busts, makes the stock market fluctuate as they increase and decrease the money supply. You lose in investments as those who understand this secret, transfer your investment money into their pocket. You lose, they win.


Wakey wakey.

Surely by the same logic , you get paid in money that doesnt exist