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Rev

rubytuesday wrote: »

Well the nutritionist said it was just as good so I would be interested to find out what it is.

Doggie got fed up with Arden Grange so I changed to Burns as I believe it's supposed to be a bit more ethically made - get it from Amazon on Subscribe and Save (I think - brain's gone) - still got a huge sack of Arden Grange left over so will need to go back to that at some point but hopefully the enthusiasm will be back. I also add Yumega for a skin condition and that helps the food go down.

What nutritionist said what was just as good?

No nutritionist with even the slightest knowledge will tell you all dog foods are as good as each other. If they do, find a different nutritionist sharpish.

AG and burns are both UK made foods free of animal testing etc.

I don't rate burns, but thats because I think it's shockingly priced for a food that's basically meat flavoured rice. When I fed kibble I tried all sorts. Arden grange, James welbeloved, orijen, acana, skinners, natural dog food company, fish4dogs, bob and lush. I settled on Simpsons grain free before switching to raw.

moomin5

Deleted_User wrote: »

I'm using Tesco value dry complete 2.5 kg for my retired greyhound. She loves it and at £1.47 seems like good value.
Not sure if it's worth spending more on premium brands?

I imagine at that price it contains unknown meat/animal derivatives,cereals and some form of fat for taste.

Its a bit like comparing those cheap mechanically recovered meat hotdogs with butcher made sausages which are like 90% pork, both perfectly edible, but you probably wouldn't want those hotdogs if you could chose. You only have to look at the ingredients label to understand the difference between foods, whichdogfood makes comparison a bit easier and has a glossary to help you understand what the ingredients are.

As pointed out its not a good idea to compare price per bag and high price doesn't always mean better quality, bakers is expensive for what it is. There are decent kibbles available for lower budgets e.g skinners (hypoallergenic range only) and Autarky salmon dinner (chicken not as good) are both around £23ish per 15kg and last one of my greyhounds about 44 days.

rubytuesday

Rev wrote: »

What nutritionist said what was just as good?

No nutritionist with even the slightest knowledge will tell you all dog foods are as good as each other. If they do, find a different nutritionist sharpish.

AG and burns are both UK made foods free of animal testing etc.

I don't rate burns, but thats because I think it's shockingly priced for a food that's basically meat flavoured rice. When I fed kibble I tried all sorts. Arden grange, James welbeloved, orijen, acana, skinners, natural dog food company, fish4dogs, bob and lush. I settled on Simpsons grain free before switching to raw.

I'm talking about the watch dog programme - I would just like to know if any one knows what dog food the nutritionist on the programme said a cheap food from a supermarket chain I think was just as good as more expensive brands - hills science plan type I think but can't remember. I can''t find any link to the programme and basically that is all I am asking! I feed my dog decent food but am curious to find out what this was!

Rev

rubytuesday wrote: »

I'm talking about the watch dog programme - I would just like to know if any one knows what dog food the nutritionist on the programme said a cheap food from a supermarket chain I think was just as good as more expensive brands - hills science plan type I think but can't remember. I can''t find any link to the programme and basically that is all I am asking! I feed my dog decent food but am curious to find out what this was!

I didn't see show sorry. So can't help with that.

If you have a look on whichdogfood.com you can compare food by price etc. Set your own search criteria. Price. Grain free. If your dog has any allergies etc.

For budget food is recommend skinners duck/salmon and rice or autarky salmon. Berriewoods is always a good place for deals. And vetuk.

For wet food. Most supermarket stuff is awful but butchers tripe is actually not bad. Decent meat content (I emailed for a specific break down and the derivatives they use as lung, spleen etc basically offal. Not beaks and feathers as a lot of them use). And at 12 Tins for around £5 you can't complain. The rest of their line is crap. But the tripe is half decent. If you can spend a bit more IMO wainwrights wet is a fantastic food. 70% meat. Some rice and vitamins.

kayl

I think that the programme you are talking about was Superscrimpers on Channel 4.

They tested Asda Smart Price, Maws and 2 other ones. What the nutritionist said was that if a food is labelled as "complete" dog food, it needs by law to contain specific % of protein, vitamins and cereals. They analysed the 4 brands, which obviously varied hugely in price, and confirmed that not only did all 4 meet the requirements, but that in fact them most expensive one only contained less than 1% protein more than the cheapest.

They then did a ( admittedly completely unscientific!) blind taste test, and half the dogs went for the cheapest brand.

The message of that programme was definitely that in a lot of cases owners are deluding themselves that they should pay for the more expensive brands

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moomin5 wrote: »

I imagine at that price it contains unknown meat/animal derivatives,cereals and some form of fat for taste.

Its a bit like comparing those cheap mechanically recovered meat hotdogs with butcher made sausages which are like 90% pork, both perfectly edible, but you probably wouldn't want those hotdogs if you could chose. You only have to look at the ingredients label to understand the difference between foods, whichdogfood makes comparison a bit easier and has a glossary to help you understand what the ingredients are.

As pointed out its not a good idea to compare price per bag and high price doesn't always mean better quality, bakers is expensive for what it is. There are decent kibbles available for lower budgets e.g skinners (hypoallergenic range only) and Autarky salmon dinner (chicken not as good) are both around £23ish per 15kg and last one of my greyhounds about 44 days.

Well, after reading this thread I have just taken delivery of 30 kg of Pet Greyhound as recomended by the greyhound trust.
I will report back after a month or 2 on this food.

hmc

I rang the lady at skinners,really helpful
She's sending me samples of the hypoallergenic range
There seems to be better things in it than the chudleys senior my collie is on. She said its also ok to start to introduce it to the pup now he's 6 months as he really doesn't like his pup food much, so hopefully 1 sack for both at last

rubytuesday

Rev wrote: »

I didn't see show sorry. So can't help with that.

If you have a look on whichdogfood.com you can compare food by price etc. Set your own search criteria. Price. Grain free. If your dog has any allergies etc.

For budget food is recommend skinners duck/salmon and rice or autarky salmon. Berriewoods is always a good place for deals. And vetuk.

For wet food. Most supermarket stuff is awful but butchers tripe is actually not bad. Decent meat content (I emailed for a specific break down and the derivatives they use as lung, spleen etc basically offal. Not beaks and feathers as a lot of them use). And at 12 Tins for around £5 you can't complain. The rest of their line is crap. But the tripe is half decent. If you can spend a bit more IMO wainwrights wet is a fantastic food. 70% meat. Some rice and vitamins.

Thank you yes once the Burns and the spare sack of Arden Grange is finished I will give the Skinners ago. Had a look on the site last night - very helpful.

Don't usually give wet food except when the Arden Grange was being turned down, sardines sometimes but will look into that.

After a very shakey start doggie has really started to enjoy the Burns though.

Murielson

Some great info here, thanks for posting all