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  • UKCPS LTD

    1200 Century Way

    ThorpePark Colton

    Leeds

    LS15 8ZA



    DearSir or Madam,



    Ticket number: XXXXXXXXXX

    Vehicle registration number: XXXXXXXXX


    I have already put mypoints of appeal to you, and on the basis you have not cancelled your ParkingCharge, I assume that my appeal is rejected. Therefore, I have an entitlementto put my appeal to POPLA and you are obliged to provide the verification codewithin 35 days of the rejection of your appeal to enable me to access POPLA.

    You have two choices,

    1. Provide the code within the 35 days from the date of your correspondence ofthe 06/09/2013.
    2. Should UKCPS continue to ignore my appeal, after 11/10/013 I will concludethat the Parking Charge is cancelled.

    Should I get no satisfaction from you following this letter, I will be making aformal complaint to the BPA and DVLA and writing to POPLA to make them aware ofUKCPS' refusal to issue a verification code.

  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 42,925 Forumite
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    @shiner83. That's fine.

    I presume you are composing this in Microsoft Word (or similar word processor) and copying and pasting into the forum text box? The formatting is a bit askew (a number of words joined together), but if it is showing OK in Word then go ahead with it - just check it out though.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 148,662 Forumite
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    shiner83 wrote: »
    after the letter, they sent me it was only then it came apparent that i was outside a bay ? even tho there was nothing for a motorcycle area!

    The letter stated,

    Thank you for your appeal regarding the above notice charge.
    Vehicles parking at the above location must be parked within a correctly marked bay; there are numerous signs at the car park which state that vehicles should only be parked where a marked bay is present and must not be parked on,over,out of the lines forming a marked bay or in a bay marked for a specific vehicle type i.e Ambulance,Police,Coach etc. Parkig out of marked bays can cause obstruction, inconvenience and safty hazards to other users of the car park. By parking the vehicle out of a marked bay the driver contractually agrees to pay a parking charge of £100 (reduced to £60 for early settlement if paid with 14 days from the day of original ticket issue), which remains unpaid.bn

    UKCPS can only address the factual issues of where and how you parked. We will not enter into dicussions about the legality of parking on private land or of the landowners right to impose parking conditions on their property. We have considered everything stated in your correspondence but it does not contain grounds to uphold your appeal. If you wish to makefurther representation, with additional evedence, please provide this within seven days of this letter.
    Second appeals must contain additional reasons not contained within your intial representation which you wish us to consider. You may also appeal to an independent assessor through POPLA (Parking on private land appeals) details of wich will be sent at the appropriate time if requested. ( WHICH I DID IN MY FIRT LETTER )
    UKCPS Ltd provide national car parking solutions. We are DVLA and Data Protection registed; SIA approved and memebrs of the british parking association (BPA)



    You typed that entire letter out, and yet it's a template that everyone gets and we've seen it lots of times. This is what UKCPS do to try to avoid giving out POPLA codes.

    Simply Google the phrase 'UKCPS can only address the factual issues' and you can read dozens of other threads on forums about 'your' letter and what people have done next; examples of their subsequent POPLA appeal wording, the lot.

    HTH
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  • yes in word and all is fine there thanks will prof read to make sure thank you.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 42,925 Forumite
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    shiner83 wrote: »
    yes in word and all is fine there thanks will prof read to make sure thank you.
    will prof read to make sure

    You might have to do a bit better than this :rotfl:

    PS - in jest only :)
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • thanks coupon-mad
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    Just out of interest, does the sign read "Car Park"? And is there any reference to motor cycles?

    If not, then you have yet another theme for your eventual appeal.
  • yes car park, and has pictures of all vehicles but no motorcycles
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    shiner83 wrote: »
    yes car park, and has pictures of all vehicles but no motorcycles

    The point is that if all of the wording relates to cars and not vehicles, then there is an argument that the contraventions do not apply to motor cycles.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 42,925 Forumite
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    Guys_Dad wrote: »
    The point is that if all of the wording relates to cars and not vehicles, then there is an argument that the contraventions do not apply to motor cycles.

    Or, conversely, the motorcycle shouldn't have even entered, therefore it's trespass - so another angle of challenge.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
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