Sheppley Crossing + Fog = No Lights?

Lum

Well if they had no lights on at all then they are still caught in my sweeping statement of "people who didn't turn their foglights on"

But yes that's definitely a higher tier of idiocy than those who had lights but no fogs, since I guess it's possible to just not react in time when there's a sudden incline into the mist.

I guess it's because of people like this that we're all saddled with having to look at cars fitted with retina burning LEDs glued to the front bumper like it's christmas.

Ultrasonic

vikingaero wrote: »

Most rear fog light use is unnecessary. People seem to automatically think: "Fog!" and switch on their rear fog lights at the merest hint of fog. If you can see the car 100m ahead of you then you don't need rear fog lights - so if you can see the vehicle or streetlights 300m ahead of you then you don't need to use your rear foglights. And you don't need them in queuing traffic....

It's much, much better to have fog lights on when you don't need them, than not have them on when you do. So as fog is often patchy I will tend to think 'Fog!' and put the fog lights on. They are not so bright that anyone would be blinded by them so I see absoluely no downside to this approch, other than the fact that I may need to replace the bulb sooner.

victor2 wrote:

Even more front fog light use is unnecessary!
Seems to be a "look what I've got" syndrome.

My (VAG) car has front and rear foglights. It is impossible to have the rear foglight on without the front foglights being on as well. This will be true for thousands of other motorists - it's not a case of 'look what I've got'!

Lum

All the German makes do that one..

So annoying. Front fogs should mostly be used for when you can't see much beyond the end of your bonnet.

That said, there are certain circumstances where, on my car, sides + front fogs gives you better visibility than both dipped and full beam.

Retrogamer

Ultrasonic wrote: »

My (VAG) car has front and rear foglights. It is impossible to have the rear foglight on without the front foglights being on as well. This will be true for thousands of other motorists - it's not a case of 'look what I've got'!

I think that was in reference to the group of people that drive around with the front fog lights on when there's no fog at all.

Crabman

Hardly anyone on motorways bothers to maintain a safe distance from the vehicle in front.

On the M5 today there was a collision involving seven vehicles. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often given that at peak times, most vehicles in lane three maintain a distance of less than one car length...

Tilt

I think driving in fog at night is a lot more safer... at least you have more chance of other drivers having their head lights on!

londonTiger

rear fog lights on my car is only on one side, and is about 1/3 brighter than the normal tail lights, does it make much difference?

Ultrasonic

londonTiger wrote: »

rear fog lights on my car is only on one side, and is about 1/3 brighter than the normal tail lights, does it make much difference?

Mine is the same and I know what you mean. It is brighter though so I'll still use it.

As others have said, speed and proximity of cars to each other were probably bigger factors in the crash than lights. As soon as one car braked there would have been brake lights to see, but drivers behind were clearly too close / travelling too fast to react in time.

alastairq

Crabman wrote: »

Hardly anyone on motorways bothers to maintain a safe distance from the vehicle in front.

On the M5 today there was a collision involving seven vehicles. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often given that at peak times, most vehicles in lane three maintain a distance of less than one car length...

Although I can be picked up for this view, I believe it will need a lot more of these multiple collisions before 'something' is done about what we all know and complain about.

Enforcement will only improve once the carnage reaches a certain, unacceptable level.

Exactly where the Government has set that level is anybody's guess?

Hintza

My biggest problem with rear fogs is when they arte on both sides (and switched on) they can be so bright you just don't notice when the brakes go on and you lose a good few yards before you realise the car in front is slowing.

In slow moving traffic rear fog lights are very tiring to drive behind.