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Newbie help, excel peel centre, awaiting POPLA results

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,078 Forumite
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    That should be fine.
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  • Thanks, I've just submitted it via the popla website, so its wait and see time now.
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    Thanks, I've just submitted it via the popla website, so its wait and see time now.

    It is much better visually than the previous one and looks very well constructed. Got my seal of approval for what that's worth anyway!

    Good luck.

    Please don't forget to come back and tell us how you get on.
  • It will be at least a month before I find out. But I will let you know the outcome.
  • Well guys, my appeal was accepted, I would like to thank everybody that has helped me, pointed me in the right direction, esp when I was thinking of paying.

    This has certainly made more vigilant of checking for parking restrictions etc.
  • Could u post up the decision txt pls
    Proud to be a member of the Anti Enforcement Hobbyist Gang.:D:T
  • Yes of course, its a 2 page document page 1 says appeal be allowed and pcn cancelled, yet on page 2 its lays out the reason for decision and says appeal refused?
  • 25 November 2013
    Reference
    always quote in any communication with POPLA
    BullTerrierFan (Appellant)
    -v-
    Excel Parking Services Limited (Operator)
    The Operator issued parking charge notice number XL__________ arising
    out of the presence at the Peel Centre- Stockport, on 22/08/2013, of a
    vehicle with registration mark ******.
    The Appellant appealed against liability for the parking charge.
    The Assessor has considered the evidence of both parties and has
    determined that the appeal be allowed
    The Assessor’s reasons are as set out.
    The Operator should now cancel the parking charge notice forthwith.
    2562853501 2 25 November 2013
    Reasons for the Assessor’s Determination
    At 15:06 on the 22nd August 2013, a vehicle with registration mark *******
    was recorded exiting the Peel Centre- Stockport after a stay of 77 minutes.
    The car park is a pay and display car park as stated on signage placed
    throughout the car park and therefore as it was recorded that no parking
    time had been purchased for the appellant’s vehicle, he was parked in
    breach of the terms and conditions.
    The appellant’s case is that they were unfamiliar with the area and they were
    unaware of the fact that the retail park charged for parking. The appellant
    states that the operator has not shown that they have the authority to issue
    parking charge notices to motorists. The appellant has additionally stated that
    the charge is an unlawful penalty charges as the charge is not a genuine preestimate
    of the loss incurred as it is disproportionate to the losses incurred. The
    appellant also adds that the operator has failed to provide evidence to show
    that the cameras at the car park are compliant with the BPA Code of
    Practice.
    Considering carefully all the evidence before me, the appellant has stated
    that the operator does not have the authority to recover parking charges
    from motorists that are parked in breach of the terms and conditions.
    Although the operator has provided a copy of the contract, the operator has
    blanked out the name of the employer and the signatures of the parties to
    the contract and therefore as the contract does not show the names of the
    parties, the contract provided is insufficient to show that the operator has the
    authority to issue parking charge notices on behalf of the landowner. As a
    result of this, I need not decided any of the other issues raised by the
    appellant.
    Accordingly, this appeal must be refused.
    Shehla Pirwany
  • Guys_Dad
    Guys_Dad Posts: 11,025 Forumite
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    Not only a good result, but on a contract point. And the idiots obscured their own information that might have supported their claim to have a valid contract.

    You couldn't make it up!

    And hats off to Shehla for going for that one rather than just GPEOL
  • I'm a little unsure of the wording at the bottom, Accordingly, this appeal must be refused.

    Although on page 1 it says the appeal is allowed.
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