Surestop stopcock

southcoastrgi

OP some conflicting advice & most of it rubbish tbh

yes I've fitted them,
yes they do work,
yes they are a very good idea,
no they don't work by electric,
no they don't scale up,
no you don't need another "proper" stoptap,
no it's not automatic,

you can get one with the switch on the unit or with a remote switch (upto 2m away from the main unit) which can go above your worktop & looks like a light switch

the British Dental Association are recommending every surgery to have them fitted for ease of turning the water off at night to prevent damaged caused by leaks

-taff

ahh..finally googled them and had a look. So you'd haveto re-route your water anyway to add them inline?
Again....ahhh...remote switch...not a bad idea at all then. Wil keep it in mind for the future

Mojisola

southcoastrgi wrote: »

no you don't need another "proper" stoptap,

Our surestop isn't the latest version but the instructions definitely said there should be "proper" stopcock in place.

It also says the same here - see the additional notes-
https://www.plumbworld.co.uk/link/1/pwsu0107_17495_t.PDF

southerndave

Southcoastgri has it bang on! Surestops are great and do not seize, do not use electricity and are a 'belt and braces' approach to shutting off the water supply when needed.

I fitted one when we overhauled our kitchen. We replaced the mains stop !!!! with a new brass one. It is in an awkward spot under the floor, like the OP, so we fitted the SureStop as well. Screwfix sell them at pretty good prices.

We also fitted service valves to ALL the taps and supplies to appliances as well.

They area good product in my opinion and having experienced the scene described by Mojisola, it is far easier flicking the switch rather than the blind panic trying to move furniture to access a likely seized stop !!!! all the while water is spraying from a damaged pipe!

I also recommend thoroughly lubing with light grease the brass stop !!!! and if you can, shielding it to prevent seizure in the future should you need to use it.

Myser

Mojisola wrote: »

Our surestop isn't the latest version but the instructions definitely said there should be "proper" stopcock in place.

It also says the same here - see the additional notes-
www.plumbworld.co.uk/link/1/pwsu0107_17495_t.PDF

With the newer ones, you do not require a manual stop tap in addition.

This page should explain the difference:

http://www.surestop.co.uk/data-page.asp?PID=14#.Uh5fQT-nmW8

southcoastrgi

yes you are correct, however it doesn't have to be next to the surestop, you already have one in the rd/pavement outside your house, isolation before the surestop is for any maintenance it may req

Mojisola

Myser wrote: »

With the newer ones, you do not require a manual stop tap in addition.

I've heard that the newer versions have got over the banging pipes problems too - has that been your experience?

Myser

I read somewhere that since the shut-off on the newer valves is more gentle, the water hammer issue has been resolved.