I want my kerb dropped

peter999

Councils are adopting Green policies which may restrict kerb dropping to discourage loss of gardens & loss of parking for other cars.

peter999

derrick

ShirleyPark wrote: »

But a dropped kerb doesn't stop some people from parking infront of your driveway !! grrrrrrrrrrrr

It might not stop them, but it is then obstruction and the police can be called to have it removed as it is an offence to obstruct a driveway.

217: DO NOT park your vehicle or trailer on the road where it would endanger, inconvenience or obstruct pedestrians or other road users. For example, do not stop

near a school entrance
anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services
at or near a bus stop or taxi rank
on the approach to a level crossing
opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle
where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane
where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users
in front of an entrance to a property
on a bend.


http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/22.htm

LittleVoice

When did the Highway Code become Law?

Section 217 does not include the red MUST/MUST NOT signalling of something which is included in statute.

darich

derrick wrote: »

It might not stop them, but it is then obstruction and the police can be called to have it removed as it is an offence to obstruct a driveway.

217: DO NOT park your vehicle or trailer on the road where it would endanger, inconvenience or obstruct pedestrians or other road users. For example, do not stop

near a school entrance
anywhere you would prevent access for Emergency Services
at or near a bus stop or taxi rank
on the approach to a level crossing
opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space
near the brow of a hill or hump bridge
opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle
where you would force other traffic to enter a tram lane
where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users
in front of an entrance to a property
on a bend.


http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/22.htm

As has been stated - highway code is not law. The police have no power to move a car blocking a driveway or access in most circumstances. Not blocking a drive is courtesy - not law. If the car is taxed, mot'd and insured then it can be parked in front of a drive and the cops can do little about it except ask the owner to move it although i'm sure they could find something to MAKE the owner move it.

As for the dropped kerb - as a council employee - vehicles are not allowed to use the footway unless permission has been granted. Driving on the footway contravenes Section 72 of the Highways Act 1835 and the Roads Scotland Act 1984.

Each council will have its own policy on dropped kerbs and getting quotes etc.

Using concrete/mortar as a ramp is also an offence since it allows you to use the footway (offence as detailed above) and it blocks the drainage channel. This can have consequences for other road users. Extreme, i know, but the channel is there to carry water into gullies - blocking it with a small ramp could mean being fined by the council bor damaging their drainage design.

Unless you know someone in your council then i don't think you'll have any option but to pay for the quote if you want an idea of costs.

Obviously I'm talking from a Scottish perspective but the laws will be similar in the rest of the UK. And the highway code is the same uk wide so it's still not an offence to block a drive!

derrick

darich wrote: »

As has been stated - highway code is not law. The police have no power to move a car blocking a driveway or access in most circumstances. Not blocking a drive is courtesy - not law. If the car is taxed, mot'd and insured then it can be parked in front of a drive and the cops can do little about it except ask the owner to move it although i'm sure they could find something to MAKE the owner move it.

I never said it was the law, although contravening the Highway Code can make you liable it is not there for fun, and parts of it are law.

From Lancashire police website:-

Lancashire Constabulary - Frequently Asked Questions – Answers

Frequently Asked Questions - Answers
Someone has parked on the road outside my house blocking my driveway and I can't get in or out. What can I do?

The vehicle is causing an obstruction and so you should call your local police station. We will check whether the vehicle is stolen and an officer will be asked to attend.

I have had morons obstruct my driveway, have called the police and given vehicle details, they then attempt to contact owner by phone and get them to remove, if that is not possible they send out a pc, who finds the owner and has the vehicle removed!

I have spoken to the police over the years and they tell me that they have the power to remove the vehicle if the owner cannot be contacted so as to remove the obstruction.

The offence is obstruction and the owner can be fined, obviously if a pc asks them to remove it they are hardly likely to refuse, at least no one has up to now.

"Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence." http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/index.htm

LittleVoice

derrick wrote: »

"Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence." http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/index.htm

Yes, that's why I mentioned the MUST/MUST NOT means of signalling where it is a matter of legislation.

derrick

LittleVoice wrote: »

Yes, that's why I mentioned the MUST/MUST NOT means of signalling where it is a matter of legislation.

And as I stated " I never said it was the law"

Obstruction still contravenes the Highway Code, and as such you can be prosecuted, not under the H C re obstructing a driveway, but for obstruction.

I know from personal experience that I can get the police to have vehicles removed from obstructing my driveway, I have had it done on many occasions, I suggest you ring your local police station and ask their views on it.

LittleVoice

derrick wrote: »

. . . I suggest you ring your local police station and ask their views on it.

That would be wasting police time! I've never had my house drive obstructed by a parked vehicle (lucky me!) and have never obstructed someone else's drive.

And any further comment from me would be wasting everyone's time - so goodbye on this thread.

mutley74

any decent driveway contractor should be able to drop a kerb as long as it meets the local auth standard. i have had this done last time and it did not cost much more than ~£200 on my driveway paving bill. i asked teh council first and they told me as long as it the same standard as existing was and no tripping hazard - no problem.

shelly

sniperpenguin wrote: »

1. Make a driveway
2. Place a piece of wood (length of wood = Width of driveway) at the base of the existing kerd like so:

|
|XXXX
|XXXX
|XXXX

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<-- Road

X = Wood, viewed as if you had your face side-on to the kerb, looking along it.

3. Enjoy the fact that your will now go up the driveway fine, and that your wallet is not a grand lighter!

Chavtastic!! :rotfl: