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  • Person_one
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    avogadro wrote: »
    Actually I think it can ;) Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin. It's the water-soluble ones that the body can't store, like the B-Group.

    Yep, that's why you have to get out and about in the summer months, to store enough to get through the dark winter.
  • adouglasmhor
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    thorsoak wrote: »
    I was given to understand that the absorption of vitamin D naturally in the body was dependant upon the ingestion of fat - which was why butter was a good natural method of getting vitamin D, and why margerine had to have vitamin D added.

    Maybe, with the fact that people spend less time in the sunshine (which although we've had quite a lot this summer hasn't been seen much here in the UK in the last few years) coupled with a low-fat diet has contributed to the need for vitamin d supplement!

    Butter and dairy are not vitD sources though, so where you got that from I have no idea, milk is sometimes fortified. also you don't get a lot of margerine on the market now as it is a name for a spread made from the evil transfats.
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  • pukkamum
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    I was under the impression that a lot of the vit d deficiency found in children is from them being constantly covered in sun block.
    In this country kids can easily spend at least 15 mins outside without sunblock on.
    My kids don't have sunblock on in the garden as they are constantly in and out of the house and the shade, I am more concerned with the effects of vitd deficiency than I am a slight sunborn.
    None of my kids have burned all have light tans and have had loads of vit d.
    I'm pretty sure there was a story of an extremely ill boy suffering a huge vit d deficiency snd it turned out mum had never exposed his skin to sun, will try and find it.
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  • thorsoak
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    Butter and dairy are not vitD sources though, so where you got that from I have no idea, milk is sometimes fortified. also you don't get a lot of margerine on the market now as it is a name for a spread made from the evil transfats.

    Butter and liver are natural sources of Vitamin D - and this is my source of information :_ http://www.milk.co.uk/page.aspx?intPageID=379

    Margerine - a substitute manufactured for those who could not afford butter in the late 19th-mid 20th century - had by law to be fortified with vitamin D. Of course, we now know this to be "evil transfats" :rolleyes:





    http://www.milk.co.uk/page.aspx?intPageID=379
  • avogadro wrote: »
    Actually I think it can ;) Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin. It's the water-soluble ones that the body can't store, like the B-Group.


    All fat-soluble vitamins can be stored in the fatty tissues of your body if you get more than you need, unlike water-soluble vitamins, which wash out in urine. Excess vitamin D accumulates in the fat and liver, providing you with a vitamin D source to draw on if your stores run low. However, too much vitamin D in the form of dietary supplements could cause health problems over time. You can't overdose on vitamin D synthesized in the body from direct sunlight.

    When I was child there were no Vit D supplements;just an aside, my Nanna reckoned that hanging the clothes in the sunshine helped. An old wives tale but one that might have bit of truth somewhere. I do remember being told the body can't store the Vit D, guess the source meant Vit D acquired by sunlight. Back then not a lot was known about how things work..research has helped move things along
  • GwylimT
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    I suffer from quite a few deficiencies due to having to have quite a strict diet due as my body cannot process certain proteins, I used to take vitamin D tablets but now I've been given a UV lamp, I only need to use it for a minute or so a day. Since then my excema has improved a lot as well.
  • thorsoak
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    In the 1960s, we were encouraged to put babies out in the sun (under a sunshade) wearing only a nappy - for half an hour every day.

    Mind you - we were encouraged to put them outside in their prams every day for a nap - winter and summer (wrapped up in winter of course) - the only times we were told to keep them inside was when it was foggy/smoggy!

    If you were teleported back to the road we lived in, back to 1966, you would see a big pram on every porch at about midday!
  • pukkamum
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    thorsoak wrote: »
    In the 1960s, we were encouraged to put babies out in the sun (under a sunshade) wearing only a nappy - for half an hour every day.

    Mind you - we were encouraged to put them outside in their prams every day for a nap - winter and summer (wrapped up in winter of course) - the only times we were told to keep them inside was when it was foggy/smoggy!

    If you were teleported back to the road we lived in, back to 1966, you would see a big pram on every porch at about midday!

    I did the same with my 3 youngest only 2, my nan told me to do it, it makes them sleep better and I'm convinced it worked. I didn't do it with the youngest at first, it was winter, but after days of screaming and none sleeping, I did it she was well wrapped, and by jove she slept for 2 hrs straight, the longest since she was born.
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  • Person_one
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    pukkamum wrote: »
    I was under the impression that a lot of the vit d deficiency found in children is from them being constantly covered in sun block.
    In this country kids can easily spend at least 15 mins outside without sunblock on.
    My kids don't have sunblock on in the garden as they are constantly in and out of the house and the shade, I am more concerned with the effects of vitd deficiency than I am a slight sunborn.
    None of my kids have burned all have light tans and have had loads of vit d.
    I'm pretty sure there was a story of an extremely ill boy suffering a huge vit d deficiency snd it turned out mum had never exposed his skin to sun, will try and find it.


    You need some sun exposure, but not enough that your skin changes colour. That means you've damaged it enough to potentially cause the DNA changes that lead to cancer. A burn is worse, but a tan is still bad.

    15-20 minutes without, then put the suncream and hats on.
  • Treevo
    Treevo Posts: 1,937 Forumite
    If you want some natural vitamin D - put your mushrooms outside in direct sunlight for an hour before cooking them.
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