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Don't laugh... Fibre vs. Wireless

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I know. Different stages along tinterweb, just shorthand for husband wanting no more wires & me wanting no blinking copper wire over the road into the house.
Sons all vehement they need good fast broadband for school....
However, our house is Listed, with a lot of solid ground flooring - hence Himself's desire to do without cables!
The area recently got fibre, & I'm thinking we could be in a win-win if we get fibre to the first box & a really loud router plugged straight in.

1. Anyone got a good word for fibre installation? As I'm reading a lot of woe.

2. Any suggestions as to routers that can be "heard" through solid old stone walls?

3. Would I be right in thinking that for the wire free future Himself dreams of, we may need new network hardware for computer & printer?

4. I heard someone talking about using the existing electric wiring to carry IT data. Would this mean we could get away with a normal router?! And what's the catch/cost?!

5. Finally, do even fibre customers pay line rental? (As that roughly £15 a month *does* influence the fiscal mathematics...)
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  • VisionMan
    VisionMan Posts: 1,585 Forumite
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    I know. Different stages along tinterweb, just shorthand for husband wanting no more wires & me wanting no blinking copper wire over the road into the house.
    Sons all vehement they need good fast broadband for school....
    However, our house is Listed, with a lot of solid ground flooring - hence Himself's desire to do without cables!
    The area recently got fibre, & I'm thinking we could be in a win-win if we get fibre to the first box & a really loud router plugged straight in.

    1. Anyone got a good word for fibre installation? As I'm reading a lot of woe.

    2. Any suggestions as to routers that can be "heard" through solid old stone walls?

    3. Would I be right in thinking that for the wire free future Himself dreams of, we may need new network hardware for computer & printer?

    4. I heard someone talking about using the existing electric wiring to carry IT data. Would this mean we could get away with a normal router?! And what's the catch/cost?!

    5. Finally, do even fibre customers pay line rental? (As that roughly £15 a month *does* influence the fiscal mathematics...)

    1. Fibre rocks.

    2. Listed building, solid stone walls. You are unfortunately screwed. Wi-Fi cannot punch through solid stone walls (and nor was it ever intended to either).

    3. Such services are not available at this time. Particularly due to the nature of your homes construction.

    4. Using the existing electrical wiring to carry IT data is via the use of devices known as 'home plugs'. But, again, the quality of the performance would be dependant upon the quality of said electrical wiring.

    5. And finally - fibre users have to pay line rental, the same as copper BB users.

    And on a personal note, DigForVictory, fibre is the future, for both broadband and TV services too. :)
  • penrhyn
    penrhyn Posts: 15,215 Forumite
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    I have to disagree,

    garlic_bread_its_the_future_bag-r053701a9643e44b7987e8463c644d5df_v9w72_8byvr_324.jpg
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  • VisionMan
    VisionMan Posts: 1,585 Forumite
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    Why, penrhyn...?
  • penrhyn
    penrhyn Posts: 15,215 Forumite
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    Phoenix Nights joke, play about 20 mins in.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz9MJs9qHD4
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  • VisionMan
    VisionMan Posts: 1,585 Forumite
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    edited 24 August 2013 at 8:39PM
    And I fell for it. :D

    And I've never seen Phoenix Nights... :cool: Opps.
  • thetope
    thetope Posts: 897 Forumite
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    fibre is brilliant - we have bt infinity, previously had about 250kb on a good day on normal broadband, now have 40+ mb speeds on infinity. You do have to pay line rental as well. We also live in a stone house. The wifi penetrates 1-2 rooms distant from the router. We also use homeplugs, which are the system that use the house's electricity wiring for a home computer network. They work really well. You can also get homeplugs (I believe) that can re-transmit the wifi signal in another part of the house and connect back to the router to extend your wireless range.
  • DigForVictory
    DigForVictory Posts: 12,052 Forumite
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    This is solidly helpful, even if I suspect it's going to be "technically challenging" to implement. Homeplugs cost how much?
    TV Services. Oh Gods, expectation management protocols initiating Now..
  • penrhyn
    penrhyn Posts: 15,215 Forumite
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    VisionMan wrote: »
    And I fell for it. :D

    And I've never seen Phoenix Nights... :cool: Opps.

    You have a treat in store, made when Peter Kaye was funny, not sure if its all on Youtube.
    That gum you like is coming back in style.
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    Having fibre to the cabinet or to the house (the latter is only available in very limited areas) won't make the slightest bit of difference to your wi-fi reception within the property compared to ADSL The system will only be as fast as the weakest link. If you have solid masonry walls then Homeplugs are the obvious solution, but a solid ground floor should not affect anything, as the signal doesn't need to pass through it.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • notbritishgas
    notbritishgas Posts: 2,314 Forumite
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    , just shorthand for husband wanting no more wires & me wanting no blinking copper wire over the road into the house.

    The area recently got fibre, & I'm thinking we could be in a win-win if we get fibre to the first box & a really loud router plugged straight in.
    To get fibre to the first box (in the house) you would require FTTP which is not generally available, and even if it was in your area it would surely cost an arm and both legs.

    You are then stuck with FTTC which would mean the copper over the road would remain.
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