Chichester to Manchester

Paul38a

Hi Folks,

I am looking to travel on the 7th September and I am looking for the cheapest way. I need to get up and back on the same day and get there for about 1pm.

Many thanks

Paul.

dzug1

Well a walk on return is £100 and pence.

If you commit to specific trains you could do it for £60 to £70 depending on times - if you book now. Will go up if you leave it

Any rail site - or Chichester station - will sell you these

The_ICT_Engineer

Using the Southern Railway site, you can do the Chichester-London return for £12.50 using Southern Advance tickets

Outward

The 6.41 ex Chichester-London Victoria (arr 8.16) has £7.50 tickets available
Also both the 8.41 (arr 10.16) and 9.41 (11.16) still have £10 tickets available

Inward

The 21.32 has £5 tickets available, the early 20.32 has £7.50 tickets available.

Between London and Manchester use the Virgin trains site.

Outward
The cheapest advance fare showing after 9am is £26 .Which are currently available on trains departing from 9.40am onward every 20 minutes. The 10.40am will get you into Manchester for 1pm.

Inward

The 17.35 Manchester-London (arr 19.42) has £19 tickets available

This is the latest train that I would catch to get back.

Crossing London, your best bet is to use the no 73 bus between Euston and Victoria. Off peak it is quicker than using the tube.

wealdroam

Hi ICT Engineer, it looks like using your proposals a return trip could be done that way for £57.50 when leaving Chichester at 06:41.

Booking Advance Singles from Chichester to Manchester as one ticket each way on the Southern Railway website, and leaving Manchester at 17:35, or even earlier, can be done for just one pound more at £58.50.

This has the advantage of including the cross London tube journey.

yorkie2

The_ICT_Engineer wrote: »

Crossing London, your best bet is to use the no 73 bus between Euston and Victoria. Off peak it is quicker than using the tube.

Out of interest, what journey times have you experienced on the 73 bus at off peak times?

The Victoria Line journey time is approx 7mins, so say a total of 15mins concourse-to-concourse.

The 73 is timetabled to take 34mins, so to beat the tube, it would have to be a late-running bus, with minimal traffic and passenger volume levels.

Also, the bus stop at Euston is arguably further than the tube platforms (you have to cross the Euston Road).

Also, just to add, that if combining Advance fares, the minimum interchange time must be allowed between Victoria & Euston (54mins) for you to be covered in the event of delays, but this assumes travel via LU.

If you were to take a bus, and as a result (e.g. congestion, road traffic accident, etc) you miss your connection, you are NOT covered and may be asked to purchase a new ticket.

giraffe69

Only a madman or claustrophobic would take the bus rather than the tube for such a journey.

cookie365

It'll take you around a third of the time by tube as it would by bus.

Shouldn't be too crowded on a Saturday morning.

If it was a weekday morning though, the Victoria line is not a pleasant experience between 8 and 9.

The_ICT_Engineer

The time you claim for the tube (concourse to concourse)is simply not possible. It takes far longer to get from the NR station concourse down to the tube platform. I and many others would love to see you race from the NR station concourse down to the Victoria line platform in the 3 1/2 minutes that you claim. Depending on your walking speed it can take up to 20 minutes just to get down to the platform and the same at Victoria Why do you think that the stated minimum interchange time is 54 minutes. It even allows for just missing the tube train.

In the evening it is quicker to take the bus and that is a fact for I have done it many a time.. The same applies to Waterloo- Kings Cross route.

Apart from that the Victoria line is hot and sweaty, I'm sure the OP would rather not board the Manchester train covered in sweat.

yorkie2

It is possible, and it certainly won't take 20 minutes to get to the tube.

If the requirement is to avoid stuffy tubes, then the sub-surface Circle Line also takes 34 minutes, from Euston to Victoria, and the journey time would typically be a bit more reliable than the bus.

I would be keen to take up your offer and participate in a race, I am unfortunately not often in London but if 20/21 September or 11/12 October are any good for you, I'll see what I can do (or I could arrange for someone else to race in my absence).

But, more importantly, if the passenger is allowing approx 1 hour between trains, taking the bus is a risk because a delay on the bus invalidates the onward ticket. A delay on the tube would be covered, and the onward ticket valid on the next train.

cookie365

The_ICT_Engineer wrote: »

The time you claim for the tube (concourse to concourse)is simply not possible. It takes far longer to get from the NR station concourse down to the tube platform. I and many others would love to see you race from the NR station concourse down to the Victoria line platform in the 3 1/2 minutes that you claim. Depending on your walking speed it can take up to 20 minutes just to get down to the platform and the same at Victoria Why do you think that the stated minimum interchange time is 54 minutes. It even allows for just missing the tube train.

In the evening it is quicker to take the bus and that is a fact for I have done it many a time.. The same applies to Waterloo- Kings Cross route.

Apart from that the Victoria line is hot and sweaty, I'm sure the OP would rather not board the Manchester train covered in sweat.

I used to make that tube journey every day. To get from the same platform the OP will use, to Kings Cross (the station after Euston) took 20 minutes. And it wont be overcrowded on a Saturday morning.

The OP is more likely to get hot and sweaty panicking that the bus they've taken is snarled up in traffic and they're going to miss their connection.

As Yorkie2 says, the circle line takes 34 minutes. And that distance is more than double the Victoria line distance. Google geographical tube map to see what I mean.

London buses are wonderful for when you just need to get there whenever you get there. Not for making a key cross London train connection.

martindow

If you have plenty of time for the connection the bus is better if you have heavy luggage. Step free access beats struggling on escalators. I agree it's not a good idea if you are tight for time.