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clearingout

and more to the point, why do you judge us by your standards? By far the majority of people posting here had children in long-standing marriages and partnerships that, for very differing reasons, broke down. Our children are not the result of casual relationships but even if they were, that does not absolve one of their parent of all responsibility - financial, practical, emotional - towards their child.

And for your record, I work full-time, in a professional position, own my own home and car and having managed several small and one very large debt my ex left me with, I have a small, but growing sum of money in the bank. I manage perfectly well without my ex and am today entirely independent of him. All my own hard work. All nothing at all to do with him - in fact much of what women like me achieve post-divorce is in spite of the large obstacles our controlling and spiteful exs attempt to put in our way. Few of them cope with the idea of us 'moving on' and play stupid, very see-through games aimed at causing problems and difficulties. I think I speak for many when I say, there is no way he's going to 'win'.

None of that, neither legally nor morally, absolves an NRP of their financial responsibilities towards their children. In fact, any half decent parent would go out of their way to try and share the responsibility and make sure that their children have all the best possible advantages in life, despite their parent's separation. But I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

PreludeForTimeFeelers

ClearingOut is right, there are a lot of working men here too.

I think even the majority of NRPs who post here would agree that we're talking about a completely !!!!less individual here.

gobsmaked

this is my response to this thread...i have seen it from both sides of the fence ..i was married to a man (and divorced) who was a total failure as a husband and never bothered with his children but i never stopped him from having them when he could be bothered..
he re married and so did i..
a few years ago he died from his own actions..
we had children who are now in their 20s and have moved on with their lives and are all happy despite the troubles they had to go through..
now this is my point. my son had a son with his ex girlfriend and had nothing but trouble all the way through their relationship..
they eventually split for good about 2 years ago
they have since both gone on to have relationships with other people and both live with their respective partners but she stopped him seeing his son october last year because he refused to buy him a flat screen tv for his bedroom (the grandson is 3 years old)
he as had vile texts from her telling him to do the same as his father did and told him he will never see his son again, and that he is no father to him as her new fella is now his father..
the point i am making is she says he is not fit to be a father but he is fit enough to pay 200 pound a month maintenance for his sons upkeep..
while my son is paying hundreds of pounds for the very slow legal system to get them to court..they are on holiday on him while he works tirelessly to keep a roof over his head...
so while the opening poster is obviously an idiot spare a thought for the people who don't shirk their responsibilities and get treated like dirt anyway!!

fedupandhurt

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

There won't be any Tax Credits; they are being stopped. There will only be Universal Credit.

Universal Credit is not an "umbrella". Universal Credit is replacing the following income based, welfare payments.

• income based ESA;
• Child Tax Credits;
• income based Job Seekers Allowance;
• Income Support;
• Working Tax Credits
• Housing Benefit

People of low income and capital under 16k (but there will be reductions for capital over 6k) will be allowed to claim Universal Credit every month. If they don't earn enough money every week (this formula is already set by the government) then they will have to comply with condititons, if they want money from the welfare state.

If your Universal Credit is not taken into account for assessing maintenance, then perhaps that is because the governmnet are also talking about putting welfare payments on a card, instead of giving cash to claimants?

I miss judged you, you clearly have no idea what Universal Credit Is all about and what it actually is
and as for benifit payments on a card im sure most wouldn't care in fact most people actually think CSA on a smart card would be revolutionary and a good idea i could just imagine PWC blubbering into there smart cards lol

FBaby

but she stopped him seeing his son october last year because he refused to buy him a flat screen tv for his bedroom (the grandson is 3 years old)

No, that most likely is what he has fed you. Most likely, there is a lot more to the story and your son is not totally innocent in the whole thing (and neither is she). However, he needs your support and so will only tell it from his side.

gobsmaked

FBaby wrote: »

No, that most likely is what he has fed you. Most likely, there is a lot more to the story and your son is not totally innocent in the whole thing (and neither is she). However, he needs your support and so will only tell it from his side.

well when they had the child he worked nights and they were both only 18 when they had the child..i would say they lived together for 12 months and in that time she had emptied the flat while he was at work 4 times...and then put it all back...she never looked after the child once while he worked nights..her parents did..she never looks after the child now..her parents do..her parents asked my son to put in for custody of him and they would back him...she as recently had a child with her new fella...god help him is all's i will say!!

FBaby

So in that case, why hasn't he be fighting for residency? Maybe that's what happened, he threatened to do this, maybe said in a very angry way, and that what got her to react the other way. Who knows, but again, it is so easy to only see things one sided. You clearly have very negative feelings towards her, so subconsciously and inevitably, will only see her doing all the wrong doing whilst your son is only trying his hardest.

gobsmaked

i don't know why i have to answer to you as you are obviously a flag flyer to women who deny access to children but as i have stated my son and his partner both work full time, so it would have to be a joint decision on anything like that..he has his own life to lead and does not have to answer to me (or you for that matter)
i would imagine his priority is to start seeing his son first and go from there..

FBaby

You don't have to answer to me and you got me totally wrong. My ex has been a nightmare and doesn't pay a penny yet I have always insured that the children had regular contact with him.

It was your statement that the pwc stopped contact just because the nrp refused to buy a flatscreen TV. It sounds so laughable that my reaction was that there had to be more to it than just that, that's all.

gobsmaked

i know it is laughable but also true..my son doesn't have a malicious bone in his body (i know lots of people say that) but its true..its just a case of two people being immature and having a child...he pays his maintenance with no moaning..but as had so much grief even her family members turned up at my house drunk and threatening violence (and he doesn't even live here) ...so the police were called..people split up and are amicable i was with my ex..but i have seen the vindictive side to it all too...