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How did companies and service cope before zero hours?
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To a degree that's true. I literally couldn't have done the last job I did in the UK without Tax Credits, and everyone there received some form of social security, apart from one girl who instead relied on her parents sending her food parcels and occasionally paying her rent.
how much were you paid
why did you do the job
why not just claim JSA0 -
how much were you paid
why did you do the job
why not just claim JSA
It was NMW. I did the job because I loved doing it, which is the same reason everyone was doing it, which they could exploit. I know this isn't the case with most ZHC, but we don't exactly have a buoyant jobs market, do we?
I didn't go on JSA because, despite what the Daily Mail would have you believe, the vast majority of people want to work and don't sit and calculate what's the most efficient way to screw money out of the state.0 -
It was NMW. I did the job because I loved doing it, which is the same reason everyone was doing it, which they could exploit. I know this isn't the case with most ZHC, but we don't exactly have a buoyant jobs market, do we?
I didn't go on JSA because, despite what the Daily Mail would have you believe, the vast majority of people want to work and don't sit and calculate what's the most efficient way to screw money out of the state.
so basically a totally unusually situation which says nothing about the vast majority of ZHC or low paid jobs.
if anyone was exploiting the benefits system it was yourself.0 -
so basically a totally unusually situation which says nothing about the vast majority of ZHC or low paid jobs.
if anyone was exploiting the benefits system it was yourself.
The fact remains that the only job a lot of people can find are minimum wage and in many cases those people will rely on benefits.
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The fact remains that the only job a lot of people can find are minimum wage and in many cases those people will rely on benefits.
to what extend does the availability of WTC creates the situation of low paid employment?
how did people manage before WTC were introduced?
to what extend does WTC discourage people from finding better paid work?
to what extent has HB simply increased the price of rentals (and hence housing in general) and to whose benefit?
unfortunately once a benefit is introduced, people and companies factor it into their employment situation and it become difficult to remove.0 -
so basically a totally unusually situation which says nothing about the vast majority of ZHC or low paid jobs.
if anyone was exploiting the benefits system it was yourself.
How Is it an unusual situation? Most people on ZHC are on the minimum wage. The main difference is that most people doing those jobs hate them; I happened to enjoy mine. My option wasn't to take a better paid job; it was to take a different minimum wage job.
The reliance on in work benefits is huge. The burden of providing a living wage shouldn't fall on the tax payer.0 -
How Is it an unusual situation? Most people on ZHC are on the minimum wage. The main difference is that most people doing those jobs hate them; I happened to enjoy mine. My option wasn't to take a better paid job; it was to take a different minimum wage job.
The reliance on in work benefits is huge. The burden of providing a living wage shouldn't fall on the tax payer.
The only evidence you have provided is of people loving their ZHC job; do you have any evidence that most people hate their ZHC jobs or is that because you look down on those sort of jobs?0 -
The only evidence you have provided is of people loving their ZHC job; do you have any evidence that most people hate their ZHC jobs or is that because you look down on those sort of jobs?
I've done at least 4 different ZHC jobs. I hated 3 of them. Obviously I have lots of friends on these contracts. I'd hazard a guess that I know a lot more people doing 'those sort of jobs' than you do.0 -
Well the BBC continue to use spurious arguments to condemn ZHC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/23764261People on zero-hours contracts paid less than others
The Resolution Foundation found that those on the contracts earn £9 on average an hour, compared to £15 for other workers.
The Labour Party say workers on zero-hours contracts are open to abuse from employers.
So journalism standards at the beeb continue to roll along the gutter and down the drain.
Given the very nature of ZHC, why would anyone think any different? What next? Bin men earn less than School Teachers? Nurses earn less than Surgeons? The poorest 10% of Britons can't afford houses?......0
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