The crushing housing burden on the young. Boomers, investors and landlords profit

Graham_Devon

wotsthat wrote: »

Have you considered motivational speaking?

Why make a silly little comment out of what I said.

What I said is perfectly true. The poster in question is doing what they can with what they have. Many others wouldn't and would choose a life of benefits and probably get a higher standard of living to boot.

We shouldn't therefore be putting the boot in, just because those of you far "better" than the poster think he want's too much. If he did want too much he would be better approaching the benefits lifestyle, afterall, he could probably get more doing that than doing what he is.

Fella

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Well firstly I pay all the taxes I owe. Every single penny, which puts me out of company with the 1%'s klepto-plutocracy.

I also contribute more than I cost, not having access to the fancy pensions and other benefits that the boomers enjoy that wont exist when I am older.

Like most younger people I am willing to put up with all of this, its just most of us think that being shafted with the price of housing as well is a final straw too far.

So you don't voluntarily give a penny to anyone less well-of than yourself but you think other people should?

Re contributing more than what you cost, how much do you contribute? The state in the UK costs a huge amount to maintain, what "you cost" isn't an insignificant amount.

FWIW I think UK house prices are a disaster but equally simply disliking everyone who already owns one is ridiculous.

Loughton_Monkey

Fella wrote: »

How much of your own wealth do you redistribute to people poorer than you?

If I drive down to my local Sainsburys, there is a very friendly bunch of Somalian boys who will wash my car for £6 while I do my shopping. Now if I can just make an assumption that they are poorer than I [not necessarily true] then by using them, I am redistributing my wealth to them.

By the same token, the £100 or so I spend every week in Sainsburys itself also redistributes wealth to the checkout staff, shelf stackers, and lorry drivers etc. Some of these [not all] will be poorer than I and they get some of my wealth in the form of wages. I also get goods for my money. So we are all happy.

Whenever I spend time in other European countries (like Spain, Italy) I notice elderly women holding a baby sprawled over the floor at the entrance to cathedrals, churches etc. holding out their hands asking for money. The same baby can be seen with different elderly ladies if you go back later. For the sake of argument, I am assuming that these elderly ladies are poorer than I, although some have told me that this is unlikely.

I am more than happy to redistribute my wealth in the former circumstances [indeed a vast amount of my wealth gets distributed every year this way] but I refuse to redistribute my wealth in the latter way.

By the same token, there are hundreds of people living around these parts who are far richer than me. Were I to wash Alan Sugar's car, or mow Rod Stewart's lawn, then I would expect them to redistribute some of their wealth directly in my direction. I don't, so I don't.

ruggedtoast

Fella wrote: »

So you don't voluntarily give a penny to anyone less well-of than yourself but you think other people should?

Re contributing more than what you cost, how much do you contribute? The state in the UK costs a huge amount to maintain, what "you cost" isn't an insignificant amount.

FWIW I think UK house prices are a disaster but equally simply disliking everyone who already owns one is ridiculous.

I do own one.

wotsthat

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Why make a silly little comment out of what I said.

What I said is perfectly true. The poster in question is doing what they can with what they have. Many others wouldn't and would choose a life of benefits and probably get a higher standard of living to boot.

We shouldn't therefore be putting the boot in, just because those of you far "better" than the poster think he want's too much. If he did want too much he would be better approaching the benefits lifestyle, afterall, he could probably get more doing that than doing what he is.

Seriously? Based on a couple of posts your learned opinion is that they should aspire to no more than a life on benefits?

Seems like poor advice to me. They'd be better off listening to Jamesd who seems to have at least risen to the challenge.

Graham_Devon

wotsthat wrote: »

Seriously? Based on a couple of posts your learned opinion is that they should aspire to no more than a life on benefits?

Seems like poor advice to me. They'd be better off listening to Jamesd who seems to have at least risen to the challenge.

Well, bar the simple fact I didn't give any advice, and bar the fact I said we should be at least recognising the fact that instead of doing that,. they are doing their best themselves.....yes...that must have been what I said, as wotsthat said so.

Seems I cannot write a thing at the moment without you coming along to twist it.

Chucky will be along to add a completely random sentence bearing no resemblence to anything in a minute for you to thank, so stick around.

chucky

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Well, bar the simple fact I didn't give any advice, and bar the fact I said we should be at least recognising the fact that instead of doing that,. they are doing their best themselves.....yes...that must have been what I said, as wotsthat said so.

Seems I cannot write a thing at the moment without you coming along to twist it.

Chucky will be along to add a completely random sentence bearing no resemblence to anything in a minute for you to thank, so stick around.

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Loughton_Monkey

chucky wrote: »

:wave: :wave: :wave:
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I don't call that a "completely random sentence"?

I have a feeling Graham was wrong, but I'm sure he can prove he was right.

All I hope is that 'whosthat' doesn't thank it....

Fella

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I do own one.

OK then disliking everyone who's got a bigger house or a smaller/no mortgage is equally pointless.

OffGridLiving

Fella wrote: »

OK then disliking everyone who's got a bigger house or a smaller/no mortgage is equally pointless.

ruggedtoast admitted a few weeks back that his hatred of boomers stems from his having problems with his own parents and from not having any legacy to come from them when they pass on.