Which car is best?

rxbren

the rear seats fold flat into the floor so you dont have to find somewhere to store them

fatbelly

I ran a 1.9 tdi skoda fabia estate from about 3 years old to 10+ years. It was very reliable, roomy boot, great economy, nice turn of speed if required. No dpf so no issues there.

At 10+ years it started with some electrical niggles and I replaced it. TBH I still miss it and wonder if I overreacted.

I think 4k would buy something like a 2006 model.

OddballJamie

rxbren wrote: »

it must be true then as it was written on the internet

It's true because several of my mates and even my Dad had two Vectras (from new) with that engine and it was terrible for reliability. Although the Insignia with the 2.0 diesel afterwards was troublefree for the 18 months he had it.

OddballJamie

rxbren wrote: »

the rear seats fold flat into the floor so you dont have to find somewhere to store them

So just needlessly carrying unnecessary weight and paying more to buy and in fuel. Great plan.

rxbren

was it the engine or the dpf or egr? shouldnt have a diesel with egr/dpf if your not doing the miles
got two 1.9 150's (astra and zafira) had no problems with either we removed the dpf only because we no longer do long journeys to avoid the possibility of it clogging
any car can have problems
the rear fold down seats dont weigh alot basically a folding frame with seat material attached if your going to be worried about less than 5kg or so you better empty you glovebox of cds, maps etc and any stuff in the door cards but why stop there you may as well ditch the spare wheel and the jack too as your only carrying them around incase you need them as well

OddballJamie

rxbren wrote: »

was it the engine or the dpf or egr? shouldnt have a diesel with egr/dpf if your not doing the miles
got two 1.9 150's (astra and zafira) had no problems with either we removed the dpf only because we no longer do long journeys to avoid the possibility of it clogging
any car can have problems
the rear fold down seats dont weigh alot basically a folding frame with seat material attached if your going to be worried about less than 5kg or so you better empty you glovebox of cds, maps etc and any stuff in the door cards but why stop there you may as well ditch the spare wheel and the jack too as your only carrying them around incase you need them as well

My Dad had the 120 then the 150 as company cars, was doing over 20k a year and had numerous faults with them. I remember one of the issues meant the Vectra spent three weeks with the main dealer to sort. Terrible engines.

As far as weight is concerned.
Zafira SRi 1.9cdti 150 - 1566KG
Astra H Estate SRi 1.9cdti 150 - 1403KG

So not only paying extra for two seats which probably wont be used much, also having to cart the equivalent weight of two adult males and it handling no where near as good as the Astra.

rxbren

zafira is a bigger car much more practical than the astra estate it has nearly 50% more boot space - before even moving the centre seats forward
other advantage is the seats are higher so easier to get a baby seat in and out and much more leg room in zafira
and on the handling front its an mpv thats like saying the astra estate handles poor compared to 3 door astra sport

you clearly dont appreciate that the extra space is worth every penny the zafira boot is near enough four times the size of our astra sport

kimandju

rxbren wrote: »

zafira is a bigger car much more practical than the astra estate it has nearly 50% more boot space - before even moving the centre seats forward
other advantage is the seats are higher so easier to get a baby seat in and out and much more leg room in zafira
and on the handling front its an mpv thats like saying the astra estate handles poor compared to 3 door astra sport

you clearly dont appreciate that the extra space is worth every penny the zafira boot is near enough four times the size of our astra sport

Until you start using those extra seats? ;-)

john_white

The new layout on autotrader should help. Boot size is important, but, bigger cars don't always mean bigger boots!

Fabia hatchback - 290 litres
Civic hatchback - 485
Saab 9-3 estate - 419
Zafira - 312
Astra - 350

fatbelly

john_white wrote: »

The new layout on autotrader should help. Boot size is important, but, bigger cars don't always mean bigger boots!

Fabia hatchback - 290 litres
Civic hatchback - 485
Saab 9-3 estate - 419
Zafira - 312
Astra - 350

Fabia estate (older version) 426 litres/ 1225 litres
Fabia estate (newer version) 480 litres/ 1460 litres
Civic hatchback (older version) 370 litres
Zafira 645 litres
Jazz 353 litres