Essex Flange ?

LuciferTDark

snails's_pace wrote: »

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
sorry, my mind is in the gutter (essex flange)

Right next to mine, mind that is.:D:rotfl:

BobProperty

potshot wrote: »

Is it possible for a surrey flange to fail ie not stop air getting into a power shower.

More info needed. What shower pump are you running and how big is the header tank for starters.

ormus

never used an essex flange only a surrey one.
no problems so far.

George_Bray

albalad wrote: »

are these difficult to fit ?
I've just bought a 3 bar pump to run a new shower column and it's recommending an essex flange fitted midway down the tank.

I did this identical job about 10 years ago. I followed the instructions, drained the tank (of course) drilled a hole in the copper cylinder and fitted the Essex flange half way down the tank, with (if I recall correctly), a simple wire tool which was supplied with the flange. The job was very straightforward and the power shower has always worked perfectly with no air locks, funny noises or any other problems. Why take a chance, deviating from their suggested approach?

Good luck
Regards
George

potshot

BobProperty wrote: »

More info needed. What shower pump are you running and how big is the header tank for starters.

The pump is Travis Perkins Ikon 1.5 bar twin shower pump which is I believe supplied by Newteam/ Bistran (as they are the people at the end of the customer services line). Their reactions to my problems were that they were amazed the pump has lasted six years as the motor brushes usually give out sooner and that I should never have had a surrey flange fitted. Despite the fact that other techicians from Newteam have recommended surrey flanges for their showerforce pumps (which are now called Jet force and he, of course, has recommended I get a new Jet force pump as it is an inductor motor with no brushes and remove the surrey flange!!)

The water in the cold water tank is about 18" deep by 24" wide by 42" long but it does taper down - I don't have an exact capacity as the tank was already fitted in the roof space above the bath/shower room. Using my schoolboy maths that would be about 8.625 cf ft which I think would be 225/230litres

BobProperty

Right, so the reason the pump is not as effective is that the brushes are going. First question, can you get new brushes and replace them? If so, that should solve the problem. If not, you are looking at a new pump. Dogs whatsits of pumps are Stuart Turner. Best way of fitting a shower pump is with an Essex flange. That's what I've gleaned from several years of hanging around plumbing forums.