Rejecting Dieting

cakeforbrains

hannah899 wrote: »

Heres just one of the links for the corn syrup http://www.mnn.com/health/fitness-well-being/questions/whats-wrong-with-high-fructose-corn-syrup

Cant find the other links but I did just remember the programme. Its called the men who made us fat

Yes! The same guy is doing these The Men Who Made Us Thin documentaries starting tonight, I think.

Thanks for the links Chameleon. They look interesting.

Let's not forget, though, that the diet industry rely on the medical industry and the media to scare us all witless about the obesity 'epidemic' and make us believe that obesity is a disease.

~Chameleon~

You might want to tune in to BBC2 at 9pm this evening for a new series called The Men Who Made Us Thin which is all about those multi-millionaires profiting from the diet industry

hannah899

thanks you 2 I would not have known it was on. ill definitely be watching. I found the first one and found it to be quiet good. not as bias as some of them are

cakeforbrains

Here is an article just released about the upcoming programme http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/aug/07/fat-profits-food-industry-obesity

sofababe

I've ditched sugar because I don't need it in my diet, it's amazing how quickly you stop wanting it once it's out of your system, I think it's as bad as nicotine! As for the wheat and dairy, I've ditched those because I seem to have a mild intolerance to both. I'm OK with one slice of bread for instance, or about 1/2 a pint of milk but any more than that and I get tummy cramps and a rather urgent need for the loo. So I've listened to my body and I heard it saying "No thank you".

I do eat butter, which I use rather than vegetable oils or spreads (most of which contain ingredients that are banned in half the civilised world), and I have a drop of cow's milk in a cup of coffee or tea (maybe 2 a day). I have wheat free breakfast cereal and use either nut milk or oat milk. I don't eat bread or pasta either. I find bread addictive, if I have one slice I want half a dozen, and I simply don't enjoy pasta very much. I find it very heavy and it makes me want to go to sleep. I try to eat plenty of fruit and veg, and drink water rather than pop or squash.

I've found the best way for me to eat is quietly and slowly. No telly, no laptop, no 5 year old asking daft questions :rotfl: I put my cutlery down between mouthfuls, savour every mouthful, noticing the flavours and textures and keep an ear out for my body saying "that's enough for now, thanks".

I feel much much better and I'm definitely losing weight (I don't own any scales, they're the devil's work:eek:), my clothes are getting looser. My skin is improving too.

Looking forward to that programme tonight, it sounds interesting.

margaretclare

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Of course someone in their late 30s was old in Anglo Saxon times. Just the sort of culture i would look at for heath advice.

They died from many other causes, mostly unrelated to what they ate. For women, dying in childbirth was a major cause of mortality. And all the different diseases in a society which knew nothing of infection or the causes of disease. And warfare - the period of history that I'm studying was racked by years of internal warfare as well as that from invaders.

They did have cheese. Which makes me think of historical periods not quite so far in the past. My ancestors in the Yorkshire Dales lived largely on skimmed milk (what was left from butter- and cheese-making), cheese and oatcakes. Oats are a cereal which can be grown on marginal land, and they ate this instead of bread. They lived hard energetic lives on oatcake with cheese right up to the start of the 20th century.

margaretclare

sofababe wrote: »

I've ditched sugar because I don't need it in my diet, it's amazing how quickly you stop wanting it once it's out of your system, I think it's as bad as nicotine! As for the wheat and dairy, I've ditched those because I seem to have a mild intolerance to both. I'm OK with one slice of bread for instance, or about 1/2 a pint of milk but any more than that and I get tummy cramps and a rather urgent need for the loo. So I've listened to my body and I heard it saying "No thank you".

I do eat butter, which I use rather than vegetable oils or spreads (most of which contain ingredients that are banned in half the civilised world), and I have a drop of cow's milk in a cup of coffee or tea (maybe 2 a day). I have wheat free breakfast cereal and use either nut milk or oat milk. I don't eat bread or pasta either. I find bread addictive, if I have one slice I want half a dozen, and I simply don't enjoy pasta very much. I find it very heavy and it makes me want to go to sleep. I try to eat plenty of fruit and veg, and drink water rather than pop or squash.

I've found the best way for me to eat is quietly and slowly. No telly, no laptop, no 5 year old asking daft questions :rotfl: I put my cutlery down between mouthfuls, savour every mouthful, noticing the flavours and textures and keep an ear out for my body saying "that's enough for now, thanks".

I feel much much better and I'm definitely losing weight (I don't own any scales, they're the devil's work:eek:), my clothes are getting looser. My skin is improving too.

Looking forward to that programme tonight, it sounds interesting.

I do similar to you, although I do have one slice of wholemeal seeded bread at breakfast. I don't eat breakfast cereals.

I've developed the ability to stop when I've had enough. Fortunately, DH understands, and I no longer have to be among the kind of people who say 'clear your plate', or 'go on, just a bit more, I made it just for you' or similar. And we always eat at a table, never in front of the TV.

margaretclare

Prothet_of_Doom wrote: »

What would cause me to die of a heart attack or stroke?

...and stress. Not being able to control your work environment but having to sit there and just take it.

Prothet_of_Doom

Having reached a glorious 115Kg last year I did the following:

Classified food into 3 groups :

A Worth eating.
B Not worth eating.
C A treat but not worth eating.

So cakes : C
Sugar in coffee : B
Lean Meat : A
Pasta, fruit, veg: A
McD's Breakfast : B
Cereals : A

Pick a food, and decide if it's A, b or C. Only buy if A

And then set myself a half hour exercise a day, and no more than 1800 calories, and a 80 KG target.

I got to 90Kg, and it fell apart, due to change of contracts, xmas, greed, laziness etc and am back to 96kg, but my fitness levels are better, so I'm restarting, with renewed optimism.

adouglasmhor

margaretclare wrote: »

They died from many other causes, mostly unrelated to what they ate. For women, dying in childbirth was a major cause of mortality. And all the different diseases in a society which knew nothing of infection or the causes of disease. And warfare - the period of history that I'm studying was racked by years of internal warfare as well as that from invaders.

They did have cheese. Which makes me think of historical periods not quite so far in the past. My ancestors in the Yorkshire Dales lived largely on skimmed milk (what was left from butter- and cheese-making), cheese and oatcakes. Oats are a cereal which can be grown on marginal land, and they ate this instead of bread. They lived hard energetic lives on oatcake with cheese right up to the start of the 20th century.

They also died from causes related to poor hygiene and poor diet. If they had lived longer they would have hit the ages where diet took it's toll on their health even more.