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Can I go through CSA my ex self employed

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  • Bluemeanie_2
    Bluemeanie_2 Posts: 1,076 Forumite
    I worked on Self-Employed assessments, and at times they were a right nightmare.

    May I ask why? Don't you just use the figure supplied by HMRC?
    I'm never offended by debate & opinions. As a wise man called Voltaire once said, "I disagree with what you say, but will defend until death your right to say it."
    Mortgage is my only debt - Original mortgage - January 2008 = £88,400, March 2014 = £47,000 Chipping away slowly! Now saving to move.
  • Crellow4
    Crellow4 Posts: 276 Forumite
    That is what is now used - doesn't always give the answer the PWC is hoping for though.
  • Bluemeanie_2
    Bluemeanie_2 Posts: 1,076 Forumite
    Crellow4 wrote: »
    That is what is now used - doesn't always give the answer the PWC is hoping for though.

    I see. Makes sense. I just wondered as Hubby is self employed (always paid, always been compliant. Takes each year as it comes, pays what CSA says) and if he is contacted, he gives his latest figure, they confirm it with HMRC and then pays whatever the new assessment is (If there is one). So wondered why it was a nightmare. But now I see Prelude wasn't referring to the CSA to work out, but for a PWC who has an evasive NRP.
    I'm never offended by debate & opinions. As a wise man called Voltaire once said, "I disagree with what you say, but will defend until death your right to say it."
    Mortgage is my only debt - Original mortgage - January 2008 = £88,400, March 2014 = £47,000 Chipping away slowly! Now saving to move.
  • Bluemeanie wrote: »
    May I ask why? Don't you just use the figure supplied by HMRC?

    Yes, and due to the time limits for submitting figures to HMRC, they're often based on earnings from possibly a couple of years back. Not many PWCs accept these figures, but as a caseworker your hands were often tied.
  • Bluemeanie_2
    Bluemeanie_2 Posts: 1,076 Forumite
    Yes, and due to the time limits for submitting figures to HMRC, they're often based on earnings from possibly a couple of years back. Not many PWCs accept these figures, but as a caseworker your hands were often tied.

    Makes sense. Cheers.
    I'm never offended by debate & opinions. As a wise man called Voltaire once said, "I disagree with what you say, but will defend until death your right to say it."
    Mortgage is my only debt - Original mortgage - January 2008 = £88,400, March 2014 = £47,000 Chipping away slowly! Now saving to move.
  • clearingout
    clearingout Posts: 3,290 Forumite
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    Yes, and due to the time limits for submitting figures to HMRC, they're often based on earnings from possibly a couple of years back. Not many PWCs accept these figures, but as a caseworker your hands were often tied.

    Can ypu say what happens if the CSA is unable to verify with the taxman? I am pretty sure tjat my ex hasn't submitted accounts for years....is there some kind of useful communication on these issues between the two agencies. I could no longer care less about maintenance but I live in hope that my having a case with the CSA will shine some light on him so he gets got eventually by someone!!!!!
  • Crellow4
    Crellow4 Posts: 276 Forumite
    The CSA can now use verbal evidence - i.e what he says he earns, they can also use estimated earnings for the type of self employment or accept accounts submitted by the NRP.
  • Can ypu say what happens if the CSA is unable to verify with the taxman? I am pretty sure tjat my ex hasn't submitted accounts for years....is there some kind of useful communication on these issues between the two agencies. I could no longer care less about maintenance but I live in hope that my having a case with the CSA will shine some light on him so he gets got eventually by someone!!!!!

    If there are no HMRC figures then it depends how compliant the NRP is - if they provide figures and evidence you'd often go with those figures. If they didn't, then you could use ASHE and estimate earnings (assuming you knew what they did). I always preferred to impose a DMD (default maintenance decision) and refer the case off to criminal compliance for further investigation.
  • clearingout
    clearingout Posts: 3,290 Forumite
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    If there are no HMRC figures then it depends how compliant the NRP is - if they provide figures and evidence you'd often go with those figures. If they didn't, then you could use ASHE and estimate earnings (assuming you knew what they did). I always preferred to impose a DMD (default maintenance decision) and refer the case off to criminal compliance for further investigation.

    Interesting. My ex is about as non compliant as he could be. No one has ever suggested criminal compliancd to me - would I necessarily have been told that?
  • Interesting. My ex is about as non compliant as he could be. No one has ever suggested criminal compliancd to me - would I necessarily have been told that?

    Generally not, the case would just be referred.

    That's not to say that it has happened though - it all depends on whether he's submitting tax returns or not.
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