Can my employer make me come to work twice in one to work my 7.5 hrs

tykeman_3

Hi all

As the title suggests this is what my employer is making us do. I'm contracted to work 37.5 hrs per week/7.5 hrs per day. My employer is making us come to work twice in the same day but only to work the 7.5 hrs (no overtime involved) is this legal/allowed

Many thanks in advance

pauletruth

yes it is often done in the care sector

anamenottaken

tykeman wrote: »

Hi all

As the title suggests this is what my employer is making us do. I'm contracted to work 37.5 hrs per week/7.5 hrs per day. My employer is making us come to work twice in the same day but only to work the 7.5 hrs (no overtime involved) is this legal/allowed

Many thanks in advance

Nothing wrong with asking an employee to fulfil their contract - 7.5 hours a day - as long as you are allowed appropriate breaks between days.

With a 7.5 hour shift, you are supposed to have a break in any case. Just seems your break is longer than you would ideally want.

They presumably are not actually forcing you to come to work twice (except maybe if you have to clock in and out), ie you don't have to go home and return but there is more than enough time to do so.

tykeman_3

anamenottaken wrote: »

Nothing wrong with asking an employee to fulfil their contract - 7.5 hours a day - as long as you are allowed appropriate breaks between days.

With a 7.5 hour shift, you are supposed to have a break in any case. Just seems your break is longer than you would ideally want.

They presumably are not actually forcing you to come to work twice (except maybe if you have to clock in and out), ie you don't have to go home and return but there is more than enough time to do so.

Actually they are forcing us to come to work twice and we do have to clock in and out, and incredibly this is with a 7 hr gap between working. Obviously you can't hang around at work for 7 hrs so you've got to go home, thus incurring twice the travelling costs. It seems very harsh to me if this is allowed.

anamenottaken

tykeman wrote: »

Actually they are forcing us to come to work twice and we do have to clock in and out, and incredibly this is with a 7 hr gap between working. Obviously you can't hang around at work for 7 hrs so you've got to go home, thus incurring twice the travelling costs. It seems very harsh to me if this is allowed.

Sorry - they are not "forcing" you. That is your response to their requirements regarding your attendance.

What is your start time of the first portion of your daily work?
How long does that session last?
What is the end time of the daily shift?

Do you travel by car or public transport?

jacques_chirac

Split shifts are the norm in some industries - care, catering, bar work etc. What industry are you in?

What does your contract say about your hours?

Fluff15

It's called a split shift and hundreds of thousands of people do it. Seven hours is plenty of time to go home, have a meal, a small sleep and recuperate. It's not 'harsh' at all!

tykeman_3

anamenottaken wrote: »

Sorry - they are not "forcing" you. That is your response to their requirements regarding your attendance.

What is your start time of the first portion of your daily work?
How long does that session last?
What is the end time of the daily shift?

Do you travel by car or public transport?

0600 to 0900 then 1600 to 2200 (from these hours I'll also be deducted 1/2 hr meal beak) This equates to 8.5 hrs paid, the extra hr will be paid overtime

I travel to work by car

tykeman_3

Fluff15 wrote: »

It's called a split shift and hundreds of thousands of people do it. Seven hours is plenty of time to go home, have a meal, a small sleep and recuperate. It's not 'harsh' at all!

I'm aware it's called a split and it is harsh if you've to travel 20 miles there and 20 miles back twice a day, have you seen the price of petrol! don't forget there's no incentive to do this to cover the extra cost. Also it means being "on the go" from 0600 to 2200 plus travelling time at each end...sounds harsh to me.

marlot

tykeman wrote: »

0600 to 0900 then 1600 to 2200 (from these hours I'll also be deducted 1/2 hr meal beak) This equates to 8.5 hrs paid, the extra hr will be paid overtime

I guess you have a choice between making it work for you or finding another job.

My dog walker does similar shifts - he walks the dogs during the day and has a couple of hours off then returns to work for his late afternoon shift.

theoretica

Under the working time directive you are entitled to 11 hours unbroken daily rest which this seems to contravene.
https://www.gov.uk/rest-breaks-work/types-of-break